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Question:

Actually, a small number of MS Flight-Simulator 2002 CD’s ‘were’ released with the WTC–all were recalled–three weeks later the ‘post-WTC’ version was released. Does anyone know why Midway and Ohara (Chicago) are not listed as departure points? Also–I landed at Ohara with a B-777, but could not turn off the runway–why? Dave Brownell Mesa, AZ

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I don’t see the Catholic Daughters or the Methodist Bowling League blowing up buildings, tying up women, or running arround with AK 47s screaming like a bunch of coyotes in heat.  Don’t start me on how goat syphilis makes you have these cave visions and write total nonsense that leads to almost 1500 years of killing innocents, Sabu.

Let’s not forget that the Catholic church (and I am a Catholic) was guilty to very similar crimes when was at the height of it’s political power. I say that only to underscore the original point that anyone can take any religion and twist its teachings around to suit their particular sickness. RE: M$ not including WTC. I don’t think it’s a requirement of FS2002 to be a memorial for the WTC victims. Keeping  Kai Tak in there makes sense because it was a challenging airport to land at. The WTC towers were only used for knife edge passes in fast planes whenever I flew near them in a sim. That’s not any fun any more so, I personally don’t see the point in keeping a visual landmark that is no longer there. The best tribute to the WTC victims will be whatever buildings replace them. Life continued. And FS2010 (or whatever) should included them when built because the are now a visual land mark. — Joseph Nastasi YOU ARE GO! Educational Space Simulations http://www.youarego.com "as far as we reach out into space, as deep we reach inside ourselves"

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*snip* You will have to wait for Microsoft Time Machine 2002 to be released if you would like to go back in time and see the towers.  I understand that mstm2k2 will be very easy to play.  Just one dial in the cockpit which can be turned counterclockwise to go backwards in time and clockwise to go forward in time.  The welcome screen will allow you to start anywhere and at any time in the world. Should be very exciting.

Wow!  Sounds great! Will you also be able to, say, go back in time and see the Berlin Wall as it stood?  Or maybe even go see a volcano erupt? <sarcasm off People have their own reasons for wanting what they ask for.  Perhaps the poster visited NYC and took an aerial tour, and now enjoy reliving the experience as a virtual pilot.  Or they like hopping the chopper from one landing pad to another. Time dependent scenery exists in MS, and 3rd party developers have incorporated it as well.  ( I like the KSC one, where Saturn V replaces the shuttle in 1969, and the VAB is marked as it was.) The WTC should not be present in ‘modern’ flights, but they could have been made time dependent.  The models were there; it shouldn’t have been too much programming to make them act like other models which change according to the time.

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says… The WTC towers were only used for knife edge passes in fast planes whenever I flew near them in a sim. That’s not any fun any more so, I personally don’t see the point in keeping a visual landmark that is no longer there.

I still think that would be fun and don’t think it would be disrespectful to do that.  I’ve done it a hundred times and I don’t have a terrorist bone in my body.  Its an piloting challenge that is really unequalled anywhere else in the scenery.  For example, its also fun to fly under bridges but if one bridge is removed, there are still plenty of others to fly under.  But there are no other "twin" skyscrapers that I am aware of.   Also, that’s not the only thing they were good for.  They made the NY scenery very cool looking even just flying around.  Also, you can land helicopters on the roof. Anyway, I do think MS made the right decision to leave them out but I wouldn’t be opposed to someone making an addon that optionally puts them back. — Rich Iachetta I do not speak for IBM.

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There is a hell of a lot of difference between freedom fighters against an occupying force in their own land than a bunch of semi-wild animals that go halfway across the world to kill a bunch of innocent civilians just going about their own business.  Never forget the 15,000 children who lost parents.

Let me see if I can make a connection between this post and the subject of this newsgroup which is FLIGHT SIMULATION….  ummmmm, can’t seem to come up with it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well they haven’t piloted planes into buildings but they have done everything else.  You’d be fascinated to read some of the stuff that happened when Palestine was still a protectorate of Britain.  It wasn’t the Arabs that ran them off. Oh boy, a political post on a newsgroup, Am I crazy?  <Flame suit on — Dave Accetta [OSR]Bulpup Politically incorrect…. this is a flight simulator guys! … Judaism is a loving and peaceful religion as well… you don’t see them Hijacking airplanes and crashing them into buildings or blowing buildings up.     The Pelican It is politically correct to want to fly to Kai Tak.  It is politically incorrect to want to remember the 6000 dead at the WTC. — Bob Andrepont The Baptists are a loving and peaceful religion, but I never saw any of them hijack a plane and kill a bunch of innocent people. — Bob Andrepont America is afraid and cowering!   That’s why I’m hiding in a cave and running around like a scared rat! — Osama bin Ladin Any add-ons done by anyone to put back the wtc towers? I don’t think they should be forgotten. And M$ seems to have ‘forgotten’ them! TROLL ALERT! Why is that?  I want them in there as well.  There’s plenty of things around the world that are gone, but still portrayed in MSFS.  Hong Kong Kai Tak was decommissioned years ago, but multitudes still want it there and addons are even sold that include it. So what’s the big deaL       The Speedbyrd