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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1941: "FDR’s speech was largely a warning about complacency. Roosevelt cautioned against "loose talk of our immunity." He said there were "secret agents" in the United States plotting an attack. "The need of the moment," he declared, "is that our actions and our policy should be devoted primarily–almost exclusively–to meeting this foreign peril." "Like Bush, he asked that this be done "without regard to partisanship." Where FDR cast the United States as a beacon for a world to be built upon four freedoms–of speech, of religion, from want, and from fear–Bush declared seven "non-negotiable demands of human dignity: the rule of law; limits on the power of the state; respect for women; private property; free speech; equal justice; and religious tolerance." 1) "the rule of law" BU$H’s executive orders insures that he can suspend the Constitution at will, confiscate private property and force free Americans into work camps. WOW!  Shades of Soviet Russia and Communism, huh?  Let me know exactly when he suspends the Constitution at his will, and when he confiscates private property (he must be an anti-capitalist?) and force Americans into work camps. Sounds like you are describing a pseudo-liberal socialist’s agenda.

READ IT FOR YOURSELF! http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/orders/ F.E.M.A. (Federal Emergency Management Agency) has been authorized  by Presidential Executive Orders to confiscate all property from  the American People, separate families in the current 43 internment camps  (already built and operational by the way, 5 of which are located in Georgia.  The largest can confine somewhere on the order of 100,000 American citizens),  called relocation camps by the government, for assignment to work camps;  declares martial law and totally overrides the U.S. Constitution. Presidential Executive Orders that are related or control this are given at  the end of this. Two of the state prisons here in Georgia are currently  empty, although manned by a minimul number of staff, have been setup and  intentionally unpopulated by prisoners just to support this political policy. Concentration (internment) Camps. An Executive Order signed by then President  Bush in 1989 authorized the Federal Emergency Management Agency (F.E.M.A.) to  build 43 primary camps (having a capacity of 35,000 to 45,000 prisoners EACH)  and also authorized hundreds of secondary facilities. It is interesting to  note that several of these facilities can accommodate 100,000 prisoners.  These facilities have been completed and many are already manned but as yet  contain no prisoners. (Remember all the talk of over-crowded prisons that  exist…). In south Georgia there are several state prisons that except for a  few guards, are completly devoid of prisoners. Under F.E.M.A., the Executive Orders which are already written and is the  current law of the land, calls for the COMPLETE suspension of the United  States Constitution, all rights and liberties, as they are currently known.  The following executive orders, which are in the Federal Register located in  Washington DC for anyone to request copies of, call for the suspension of all  civil rights and liberties and for extraordinary measures to be taken in, as  most of the orders state, "any national security emergency situation that  might confront the government." When F.E.M.A. is implemented, the following  executive orders will be immediately enforced:

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1941: "FDR’s speech was largely a warning about complacency. Roosevelt cautioned against "loose talk of our immunity." He said there were "secret agents" in the United States plotting an attack. "The need of the moment," he declared, "is that our actions and our policy should be devoted primarily–almost exclusively–to meeting this foreign peril." "Like Bush, he asked that this be done "without regard to partisanship." Where FDR cast the United States as a beacon for a world to be built upon four freedoms–of speech, of religion, from want, and from fear–Bush declared seven "non-negotiable demands of human dignity: the rule of law; limits on the power of the state; respect for women; private property; free speech; equal justice; and religious tolerance."

1) "the rule of law" BU$H’s executive orders insures that he can suspend the Constitution at will, confiscate private property and force free Americans into work camps. 2)"limits on the power of the state" a fucking joke coming from Dubya. 3)"respect for women" BU$H wants to overturn Roe v. Wade. 4) "private property" see #2 5) "free speech" this can get you declared an enemy of the state and as such, you can be detained without charges and denied cousel indefinitely. 6) "equal justice" see above. 7) "religious tolerance"aother fucking joke coming from Dubya.

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Millions of idiots pranced in the streets yesterday,and today a second tape appears from Ossama Bin Laden. Thanks ! Thanks a lot !

If you don’t like Democracy, more to Iran.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1941: "FDR’s speech was largely a warning about complacency. Roosevelt cautioned against "loose talk of our immunity." He said there were "secret agents" in the United States plotting an attack. "The need of the moment," he declared, "is that our actions and our policy should be devoted primarily–almost exclusively–to meeting this foreign peril." "Like Bush, he asked that this be done "without regard to partisanship." Where FDR cast the United States as a beacon for a world to be built upon four freedoms–of speech, of religion, from want, and from fear–Bush declared seven "non-negotiable demands of human dignity: the rule of law; limits on the power of the state; respect for women; private property; free speech; equal justice; and religious tolerance." 1) "the rule of law" BU$H’s executive orders insures that he can suspend the Constitution at will, confiscate private property and force free Americans into work camps.

WOW!  Shades of Soviet Russia and Communism, huh?  Let me know exactly when he suspends the Constitution at his will, and when he confiscates private property (he must be an anti-capitalist?) and force Americans into work camps. Sounds like you are describing a pseudo-liberal socialist’s agenda. 2)"limits on the power of the state" a fucking joke coming from Dubya.

Limits on the power of the state just may not coincide with what YOU think should be limited. 3)"respect for women" BU$H wants to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Partial-birth abortion procedures respect nothing, absolutely nothing and no one. 4) "private property" see #2 5) "free speech" this can get you declared an enemy of the state and as such, you can be detained without charges and denied cousel indefinitely.

Hey, my foes in here will gladly give Bush my name because I insult courtier members of Congress everyday.  I want to setup a guillotine for them. I want them to suffer a "Reign of Terror" for their taxation legislation. I want to burn them at the stake fueled by IRS tomes. 6) "equal justice" see above.

You need a referral to the ACLU. 7) "religious tolerance"aother fucking joke coming from Dubya.

Most conspicious are the intolerant rants from atheists. As an agnostic, I feel this opinion is based an impartial observation. Atheists are so irrational and egocentric, and viciously disrespectful. They fear religions, and mock religious people with utmost disdain. They do ignore fanatical Islamism, yet to indiscriminate extremes, they verbally persecute and antagonize Christians, demanding denial of their holiday expressions and public observances. A major tenet of Karl Marx was that religion was the opiate of the people.  For atheists, fanatical atheism is their opiate. It seems only fair and eqalitarian to believe so. Extremism and intolerance shouts so loudly, and for us, that it is the very  best forewarning.  Thanks. from Nan

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Millions of idiots pranced in the streets yesterday,and today a second tape appears from Ossama Bin Laden.  Thanks ! Thanks a lot ! Now I’m here watching Secratry Ridge on ABC saying that we need to extend the terror alert,and that there is word of men who were training in Afghan camps (illegally) and are now in the US?.  These anti-war people are the minority,and can’t stand it.  Poor poor babies… If the majority of people who are for the war got up and marched around making fools of themselves,they would have swallowed up these ‘Millions’.  But the majority doesn’t have to stoop to extemist behavior to get things done.  In a Democracy the majority get their way.  I have a message for these millions….  Get over it you whiny babies ! You had your chance at the polls,and you lost.  You’re going to get us all killed. Just shut up already.

I thought they were exercising their First Amendment rights to free speech, at least in the U.S.A. That exercise deserves support.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Millions of idiots pranced in the streets yesterday,and today a second tape appears from Ossama Bin Laden. Thanks ! Thanks a lot ! Now I’m here watching Secratry Ridge on ABC saying that we need to extend the terror alert,and that there is word of men who were training in Afghan camps (illegally) and are now in the US?. These anti-war people are the minority,and can’t stand it. Poor poor babies… If the majority of people who are for the war got up and marched around making fools of themselves,they would have swallowed up these ‘Millions’. But the majority doesn’t have to stoop to extemist behavior to get things done. In a Democracy the majority get their way. I have a message for these millions…. Get over it you whiny babies ! You had your chance at the polls,and you lost. You’re going to get us all killed. Just shut up already. I thought they were exercising their First Amendment rights to free speech, at least in the U.S.A. That exercise deserves support.

Joanie likes Dictators! The Bush Dictatorship June 17, 2002 A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS We have crossed over into the first stage of a dictatorship when American citizens can no longer exercise their First Amendment rights in the presence of an unelected president who, by his own admission, prefers dictatorships to democracies. Over the weekend, BuzzFlash headlined several stories about Ohio State University graduates who were threatened with expulsion and arrest if they even silently protested Bush, by turning their backs to him, during their commencement services. July 27, 2001 | WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush conceded Thursday he’s had his struggles with Congress and is bound to have more, joking that "If this were a  dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator," Bush mumbled http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm Reagan, Bush & Saddam = Best Buddies http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20020923/1048504.asp    FOREIGN POLICY   U.S. sent Iraq germs in mid-’80s   By DOUGLAS TURNER   News Washington Bureau Chief   9/23/2002

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Millions of idiots pranced in the streets yesterday,and today a second tape appears from Ossama Bin Laden. Thanks ! Thanks a lot ! Now I’m here watching Secratry Ridge on ABC saying that we need to extend the terror alert,and that there is word of men who were training in Afghan camps (illegally) and are now in the US?. These anti-war people are the minority,and can’t stand it. Uh, watch TV much? jan

1941: "FDR’s speech was largely a warning about complacency. Roosevelt cautioned against "loose talk of our immunity." He said there were "secret agents" in the United States plotting an attack. "The need of the moment," he declared, "is that our actions and our policy should be devoted primarily–almost exclusively–to meeting this foreign peril." "Like Bush, he asked that this be done "without regard to partisanship." Where FDR cast the United States as a beacon for a world to be built upon four freedoms–of speech, of religion, from want, and from fear–Bush declared seven "non-negotiable demands of human dignity: the rule of law; limits on the power of the state; respect for women; private property; free speech; equal justice; and religious tolerance." Regards, from Nan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." — Pres. GW Bush, Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003

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If the majority of people who are for the war got up and……

Joanie they should ENLIST IMMEDIATLEY! They should have thier kids ENLIST IMMEDIATELY! I don’t see any of the jingoistic warmongers ENLISTING!

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<Snipped the usual crap Very nice. Using webtv through google and crossposted to five groups. The exact same five groups that Porcus posts to through a remailer. Does webtv work through anonymous remailers too? Not that I think you are Porcus.

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<Snipped the usual crap Very nice. Using webtv through google and crossposted to five groups. The exact same five groups that Porcus posts to through a remailer. Does webtv work through anonymous remailers too? Not that I think you are Porcus.

Hehehe…its funny how those in a rush to go to war are not in a rush to enlist.

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Millions of idiots pranced in the streets yesterday,and today a second tape appears from Ossama Bin Laden.  Thanks ! Thanks a lot ! Now I’m here watching Secratry Ridge on ABC saying that we need to extend the terror alert,and that there is word of men who were training in Afghan camps (illegally) and are now in the US?.  These anti-war people are the minority,and can’t stand it.  Poor poor babies… If the majority of people who are for the war got up and marched around making fools of themselves,they would have swallowed up these ‘Millions’.  But the majority doesn’t have to stoop to extemist behavior to get things done.  In a Democracy the majority get their way.  I have a message for these millions….  Get over it you whiny babies ! You had your chance at the polls,and you lost.  You’re going to get us all killed. Just shut up already. =====   Feb 16, 6:44 AM EST http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ_DEVELOPMENTS?SITE=OHC… Key Developments Concerning Iraq By The Associated Press Developments in the Iraq crisis: – An audiotape purportedly from Osama bin Laden calls President Bush "stupid" and claims American war plans against Iraq are part of a plot to attack Muslim nations in the Middle East and North Africa. The tape appeared to be the same 53-minute recording of which a few excerpts were released Thursday by the British-based Islamic Al-Ansaar news agency. – Iraq’s tightly controlled news media gave prominent coverage to anti-war demonstrations staged around the world on Saturday, saying anti-war demonstrations in dozens of countries signaled an Iraqi victory and "the defeat and isolation of America." – Iraq’s foreign minister says fellow Arab states should do more to avert a possible U.S.-led war. Naji Sabri’s remarks came hours before Arab foreign ministers opened formal discussions about holding an emergency summit in Cairo on the crisis. – Tens of thousands of people gathered in downtown Sydney and around Australia to protest possible war with Iraq and their country’s involvement.

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Millions of idiots pranced in the streets yesterday,and today a second tape appears from Ossama Bin Laden. Thanks ! Thanks a lot ! Now I’m here watching Secratry Ridge on ABC saying that we need to extend the terror alert,and that there is word of men who were training in Afghan camps (illegally) and are now in the US?. These anti-war people are the minority,and can’t stand it.

Uh, watch TV much? jan "The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." — Pres. GW Bush, Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003

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Millions of idiots pranced in the streets yesterday,and today a second tape appears from Ossama Bin Laden. Thanks ! Thanks a lot ! Now I’m here watching Secratry Ridge on ABC saying that we need to extend the terror alert,and that there is word of men who were training in Afghan camps (illegally) and are now in the US?.

This is news to you?  Well, here’s some more news for you. Despite our ongoing military action in Afghanistan, and having installed a more-or-less friendly government there, alQaeda is still running training camps there, according to a newsweek reporter who claimed to have spoken with trainees. These anti-war people are the minority,and can’t stand it.

Don’t read the papers much, do you?  Both here in the states, and around the world, a majority believe the inspectors should be given more time, and that no military action should be contemplated without further UN approval. Poor poor babies… If the majority of people who are for the war got up and marched around making fools of themselves,they would have swallowed up these ‘Millions’.

So why didn’t they?  I recall Nixon talking about the great "silent majority."  Basically, he was claiming, as you are, that anyone who doesn’t publicly expound a position is a supporter of the administration position. But the majority doesn’t have to stoop to extemist behavior to get things done. In a Democracy the majority get their way. I have a message for these millions…. Get over it you whiny babies ! You had your chance at the polls,and you lost.

Polls? When did we get to vote on whether or not to go to war with Iraq? The only polls on this, both here in the states and world-wide, indicate that significant majorities want to see no war it this time. You’re going to get us all killed.

Bullshit! Just shut up already.

Show us how. Al Moore

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