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Event Name: Outback Distance Classic Time: 8:00 a.m. Distance: Half marathon & 6K Location: Jacksonville, Florida, USA Host: Outback Steak House / 1st Place Sports Benefit: Mandarin Food Bank Course Layout: Out-n-back with loops on each end Course Terrain: Flat, asphalt, rural/suburban streets Weather Conditions: 43F/XXC; clear and sunny; slight north wind Sociological (Fashion, fighting, foolery, and food):    Fashion: All sorts from eskimo suits to shorts/singlets. A great deal of attire was discarded by mile 4. The race organizers had placed a few baskets long the route for runners to deposit their unneeded clothing and could pick it up after the run. We still saw gloves, shirts, hats, and scarfs along the road.    Fighting: The start was more of a zoo than usual – the half folks and the 6K folks started at the same place and time. A little after mile 8 one guy stopped to walk without moving over to the side. This caused an effect in the following group that can only be described as the The Three Stooges Do Riverdance. No blood but many, many bad words. In a separate incident, a young woman slipped on some sand/gravel and went head first into the asphalt. Bloody but determined, she perservered. There is a tight, sharp turn 50 meters or so before the finish line. This turn is the scene of much road rash every year. This year was not different from past years.    Foolery: Spectators at mile 3: "You’re almost there!" Usual signs with the wrong mileage on them. "Hey, my MP3 player is just playing the first few seconds of each song." "Yeah, it’s stuck on scan and I don’t know how to clear it." "Do you mean I’ll have to run the whole way without my music???"    Food: "Free" (USA, light) beer, sports drinks, sodas, bagels, oranges, bananas, apples, sports bars, Gu (on the course). Personal Time: 2:12:20 gun time (2:11:45 watch time) Personal Pace: 10:06 Personal Place Overall (males): 653 out of 723 Personal Place Age Group (males): 98 out of 114 # of participants completing the course: 1224 (825 in the 6K) Winning Time: 1:04:52 (Zeph Joseph – he couldn’t accept the $1000US since he’s a student at UNF) Last Finisher: 3:15:03 Results URL:    http://www.1stplacesports.com/obdc2002halfres.htm Newspaper article:    http://www.times-union.com/tu-online/stories/112902/spo_11096103.shtml Comments:    This was an event of firsts for me: first half marathon, first event that Susan’s son Chris ran with us, first use of something other than fluid during the event, and first nature call during an event (I’m so proud). I ran the 6K companion last year and enjoyed it. The half was a different beast but still just as enjoyable. Successes: finished my first half marathon, had a very good time and felt that way at the finish line, no injuries, came in under the 2:20 I expected, and am looking forward to the next half in two weeks. Disappointments: Absolutely none. Yeah, I know, 43F is a warm spell for some folks but it’s considered fairly cool around here. Most prerun conversation was about what kind of gear to wear. Layering seemed to be taken to a whole new level. I don’t know what the winning number of layers was but I did see one young woman shed 4 layers and still have several layers left. Two people tried the garbage bag trick with poor results ("Hey! Go Garbage Bag Man!"). I went with shorts and my cool weather singlet. I had a chance to talk with r.r’s Dr. Dickie but unfortunately didn’t see him afterward (he did very well). The announcer said, "OK, Runners. The signal will be Ready and the gun will fire." <wait, wait, wait BOOM. There were enough runners that the start for those of us at the back was a nonevent. We stood for a few seconds while the people behind us tried to move forward (or maybe they were just trying to keep warm or cop a cheap feel). When we were able to move, several people tried running but I was walking faster than they were running. At the start line we were finally able to do a little running. Susan and I had planned to start off slower than we thought was necessary but the crowd took care of that for us. We just ran. After a mile the 6K folks took a right turn while we took a left turn. This thinned the crowd out a bit and the running became much easier. There was the usual early run chatter but it was a perfect day for running so we didn’t mind. It was tempting to speed up a little but we concentrated on keeping an even pace. Since I’d never run a half before I spent some time arranging the mental techniques I’d use to just finish. At the 3 mile mark, I started thinking that I’d one 10 mile training runs and had really enjoyed them. By the time I’d worked all that out we were at the 4 mile mark. I also tried just running to the next mile marker and that worked, too. There were a few little ups and downs but no real hills. For the first time in an event, I felt the call of nature – bad. Quite a few people had been darting into the woods or ducking behind palmetto stands. Finally, we came upon a portolet with a person just leaving it. I told Susan to go on and I’d try to catch up or see her at the finish. One thing I learned from this experience is that when you try to hurry some things they just take longer. I came out into the groups of people behind the main pack and started working my way through them. The back tends to be small groups of people with 30-50 meters between them. This was an interesting experience. A young woman slipped on some sand/gravel and hit her head something fierce. She jumped back up (surprised me) and took off before anyone could get to her to help. I caught up with Susan about mile 9 (and needed to recover). We walked through the next water station to eat a Gu and down some water. That really picked us up and we tried to slowly increase our pace to the finish. The runners had thinned out to groups of pretty equal pace. We were near a group of 6 or so that had been running toegther for a while. When we picked up the pace, we dropped several but two called our hand and picked up their pace. We tried to hang with them and passed all of them but one before the finish. The cheering crowd to the finish line formed a gauntlet that was a little unnerving. I had nothing left for a sprint but (luckily) neither did Susan so we finished in a tie. We both staggered over to the water and sports drink table then headed for the food. Chris had finished in 1:28 but didn’t expect us to finish in 2:12 so we didn’t meet up until we had all eaten (a bunch). We talked with people we knew and waited for the awards ceremony. Susan came in AG 4th. The friendly rival she had beaten in the 10 mile Pumpkin Run had edged her out by 34 seconds. No matter. Susan had as much fun as I did and set a new PB. Chris wasn’t as pleased with his run as he expected to do much better. However, Susan and I were happy enough that he didn’t mind. Back to the house, stuffed our faces (again), and vegged out for the rest of the day. Yep, this running stuff is a little all right. Splits: Mile            Time    MHR     AHR gun to start      :35    91      80 1               10:15   146     136 2               10:06   146     141 3               10:11   148     144 4               10:06   150     147 5               10:10   153     148 6               10:02   155     151 7               10:44   167     154 – nature break 8                9:02   171     167 – catch up 9               10:00   172     166 10              10:23   165     159 – water/Gu station 11              10:01   169     164 12               9:52   171     168 13               9:50   176     172 .1                :57   180     176 (My first 2000+ Polar Calorie run, too.) Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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  Foolery: Spectators at mile 3: "You’re almost there!"

No, they probably meant from the start, or maybe they thought they were at another 5k.  ;-) Personal Time: 2:12:20 gun time (2:11:45 watch time)

Awesome.  It took me 3 half marathons to get down to that time. Comments:   This was an event of firsts for me: first half marathon, first event that Susan’s son Chris ran with us, first use of something other than fluid during the event, and first nature call during an event (I’m so proud). I ran the 6K companion last year and enjoyed it. The half was a different beast but still just as enjoyable. Successes: finished my first half marathon, had a very good time and felt that way at the finish line, no injuries, came in under the 2:20 I expected, and am looking forward to the next half in two weeks. Disappointments: Absolutely none.

Congratulations on your first.  But, it is how you feel the morning after… Yep, this running stuff is a little all right.

I don’t know if you could have said that if there wasn’t beer at the finish. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Splits: Mile Time MHR AHR gun to start   :35 91 80 1 10:15 146 136 2 10:06 146 141 3 10:11 148 144 4 10:06 150 147 5 10:10 153 148 6 10:02 155 151 7 10:44 167 154 – nature break 8 9:02 171 167 – catch up 9 10:00 172 166 10 10:23 165 159 – water/Gu station 11 10:01 169 164 12 9:52 171 168 13 9:50 176 172 .1   :57 180 176

I’d be thrilled for splits that even.  Maybe I should try that sometime. (My first 2000+ Polar Calorie run, too.)

Does that mean you have a CRM?  Calorie Rate Monitor? Layne

Thanks for the report Layne. The rec.running report archives may be found at

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Event Name: Outback Distance Classic Time: 8:00 a.m. Distance: Half marathon & 6K Location: Jacksonville, Florida, USA Host: Outback Steak House / 1st Place Sports Benefit: Mandarin Food Bank Course Layout: Out-n-back with loops on each end Course Terrain: Flat, asphalt, rural/suburban streets Weather Conditions: 43F/XXC; clear and sunny; slight north wind Sociological (Fashion, fighting, foolery, and food):    Fashion: All sorts from eskimo suits to shorts/singlets. A great deal of attire was discarded by mile 4. The race organizers had placed a few baskets long the route for runners to deposit their unneeded clothing and could pick it up after the run. We still saw gloves, shirts, hats, and scarfs along the road.    Fighting: The start was more of a zoo than usual – the half folks and the 6K folks started at the same place and time. A little after mile 8 one guy stopped to walk without moving over to the side. This caused an effect in the following group that can only be described as the The Three Stooges Do Riverdance. No blood but many, many bad words. In a separate incident, a young woman slipped on some sand/gravel and went head first into the asphalt. Bloody but determined, she perservered. There is a tight, sharp turn 50 meters or so before the finish line. This turn is the scene of much road rash every year. This year was not different from past years.    Foolery: Spectators at mile 3: "You’re almost there!" Usual signs with the wrong mileage on them. "Hey, my MP3 player is just playing the first few seconds of each song." "Yeah, it’s stuck on scan and I don’t know how to clear it." "Do you mean I’ll have to run the whole way without my music???"    Food: "Free" (USA, light) beer, sports drinks, sodas, bagels, oranges, bananas, apples, sports bars, Gu (on the course). Personal Time: 2:12:20 gun time (2:11:45 watch time) Personal Pace: 10:06 Personal Place Overall (males): 653 out of 723 Personal Place Age Group (males): 98 out of 114 # of participants completing the course: 1224 (825 in the 6K) Winning Time: 1:04:52 (Zeph Joseph – he couldn’t accept the $1000US since he’s a student at UNF) Last Finisher: 3:15:03 Results URL:    http://www.1stplacesports.com/obdc2002halfres.htm Newspaper article:    http://www.times-union.com/tu-online/stories/112902/spo_11096103.shtml Comments:    This was an event of firsts for me: first half marathon, first event that Susan’s son Chris ran with us, first use of something other than fluid during the event, and first nature call during an event (I’m so proud). I ran the 6K companion last year and enjoyed it. The half was a different beast but still just as enjoyable. Successes: finished my first half marathon, had a very good time and felt that way at the finish line, no injuries, came in under the 2:20 I expected, and am looking forward to the next half in two weeks. Disappointments: Absolutely none. Yeah, I know, 43F is a warm spell for some folks but it’s considered fairly cool around here. Most prerun conversation was about what kind of gear to wear. Layering seemed to be taken to a whole new level. I don’t know what the winning number of layers was but I did see one young woman shed 4 layers and still have several layers left. Two people tried the garbage bag trick with poor results ("Hey! Go Garbage Bag Man!"). I went with shorts and my cool weather singlet. I had a chance to talk with r.r’s Dr. Dickie but unfortunately didn’t see him afterward (he did very well).

Great race Layne. I shocked myself and finished in 1:52:20. That was the coldest 43F I have felt (and this boy is from D.C. and New Hampshire originally!). Sorry that I missed you afterwards. I had it timed to the second. I defrosted the bird the night before; put it in the oven just before I left for the run; and pulled it out just in time when I got home (so I had to go quickly after the race). The announcer said, "OK, Runners. The signal will be Ready and the gun will fire." <wait, wait, wait BOOM.

I thought he was funny as all get out. He said," OK, runners, the signal will be Ready and then the gun will sound. <wait, wait Ready…hold on minute. <wait, wait BOOM. There were enough runners that the start for – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – those of us at the back was a nonevent. We stood for a few seconds while the people behind us tried to move forward (or maybe they were just trying to keep warm or cop a cheap feel). When we were able to move, several people tried running but I was walking faster than they were running. At the start line we were finally able to do a little running. Susan and I had planned to start off slower than we thought was necessary but the crowd took care of that for us. We just ran. After a mile the 6K folks took a right turn while we took a left turn. This thinned the crowd out a bit and the running became much easier. There was the usual early run chatter but it was a perfect day for running so we didn’t mind. It was tempting to speed up a little but we concentrated on keeping an even pace. Since I’d never run a half before I spent some time arranging the mental techniques I’d use to just finish. At the 3 mile mark, I started thinking that I’d one 10 mile training runs and had really enjoyed them. By the time I’d worked all that out we were at the 4 mile mark. I also tried just running to the next mile marker and that worked, too. There were a few little ups and downs but no real hills. For the first time in an event, I felt the call of nature – bad. Quite a few people had been darting into the woods or ducking behind palmetto stands. Finally, we came upon a portolet with a person just leaving it. I told Susan to go on and I’d try to catch up or see her at the finish. One thing I learned from this experience is that when you try to hurry some things they just take longer. I came out into the groups of people behind the main pack and started working my way through them. The back tends to be small groups of people with 30-50 meters between them. This was an interesting experience. A young woman slipped on some sand/gravel and hit her head something fierce. She jumped back up (surprised me) and took off before anyone could get to her to help. I caught up with Susan about mile 9 (and needed to recover). We walked through the next water station to eat a Gu and down some water. That really picked us up and we tried to slowly increase our pace to the finish. The runners had thinned out to groups of pretty equal pace. We were near a group of 6 or so that had been running toegther for a while. When we picked up the pace, we dropped several but two called our hand and picked up their pace. We tried to hang with them and passed all of them but one before the finish. The cheering crowd to the finish line formed a gauntlet that was a little unnerving. I had nothing left for a sprint but (luckily) neither did Susan so we finished in a tie. We both staggered over to the water and sports drink table then headed for the food. Chris had finished in 1:28 but didn’t expect us to finish in 2:12 so we didn’t meet up until we had all eaten (a bunch). We talked with people we knew and waited for the awards ceremony. Susan came in AG 4th. The friendly rival she had beaten in the 10 mile Pumpkin Run had edged her out by 34 seconds. No matter. Susan had as much fun as I did and set a new PB. Chris wasn’t as pleased with his run as he expected to do much better. However, Susan and I were happy enough that he didn’t mind. Back to the house, stuffed our faces (again), and vegged out for the rest of the day. Yep, this running stuff is a little all right. Splits: Mile            Time    MHR     AHR gun to start      :35    91      80 1               10:15   146     136 2               10:06   146     141 3               10:11   148     144 4               10:06   150     147 5               10:10   153     148 6               10:02   155     151 7               10:44   167     154 – nature break 8                9:02   171     167 – catch up 9               10:00   172     166 10              10:23   165     159 – water/Gu station 11              10:01   169     164 12               9:52   171     168 13               9:50   176     172 .1                :57   180     176 (My first 2000+ Polar Calorie run, too.) Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

Great run. I really enjoyed it, and my legs have almost recovered (I did deadlifts and squats this morning, no running until Monday though). Look forward to seeing you at the next run, and keep up the great race descriptions. I could never do half the job you do with that. — Dr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438 Poking kooks with a pointy stick "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing." A. Einstein

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Hi, Dr. D., Great race Layne. I shocked myself and finished in 1:52:20.

Thanks. So you only finished 20 minutes before I did <G. Seriously, that’s a very nice run – WAY sub-9. That was the coldest 43F I have felt (and this boy is from D.C. and New Hampshire originally!).

Yeah, I think it was the north breeze. The crush of people back where I was made it seem pretty warm until the running heat took over. Sorry that I missed you afterwards. I had it timed to the second. I defrosted the bird the night before; put it in the oven just before I left for the run; and pulled it out just in time when I got home (so I had to go quickly after the race).

I’m impressed. That kind of planning and coordination is well beyond me. I guess I was lucky in that everyone in our house ran the half so we were all content to take it easy on the food prep time. Too bad we couldn’t have connected but I took care of your bagel and beer for you. Hey, what are friends for? The announcer said, "OK, Runners. The signal will be Ready and the gun will fire." <wait, wait, wait BOOM. I thought he was funny as all get out. He said," OK, runners, the signal will be Ready and then the gun will sound. <wait, wait Ready…hold on minute. <wait, wait BOOM.

Yeah, he’s a nice guy but I heard today that things didn’t go as smoothly as they seemed to us runners. He was dealing with police, neighbors, and volunteers right up to the start time. By the time I came through the course, things were the expected well organized support that is typical in his events. Great run. I really enjoyed it, and my legs have almost recovered (I did deadlifts and squats this morning, no running until Monday though). Look forward to seeing you at the next run, and keep up the great race descriptions. I could never do half the job you do with that.

I agree, it was a great run on a near perfect running day. Your legs probably take a bit longer to recover since you covered the ground so much quicker. Susan’s rule of thumb for recovery is to wait the same number of days to run as hours spent in the event. We’ll try to do a little one on Sunday. I hope you’ll get to do one or both of the 5Ks next Saturday. The one Saturday night is one of my favorites. Thanks, I enjoy writing them up since it makes me attend to what’s happening more than I would normally. Your reports would be quite a bit shorter since you take so much less time to do the course <G. Thanks, Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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Hi, Roger,   Foolery: Spectators at mile 3: "You’re almost there!" No, they probably meant from the start, or maybe they thought they were at another 5k.  ;-)

Yeah, or almost to the point of discovering if there’s life after death. Personal Time: 2:12:20 gun time (2:11:45 watch time) Awesome.  It took me 3 half marathons to get down to that time.

Wow, thanks! I can’t imagine you running at 10 minute miles. Congratulations on your first.  But, it is how you feel the morning after…

Thanks. Hmm, so you’ve been there, eh? <G Yep, there was a little DOMS but a bike ride took care of that. The good news was no knee problems. Yep, this running stuff is a little all right. I don’t know if you could have said that if there wasn’t beer at the finish.

LOL. Good point. I’d be thrilled for splits that even.  Maybe I should try that sometime.

I was totally amazed. One thing that I noticed during my long runs was that when I slowed down too much, I used more energy than I did when I "just ran." During this run, I used the Force and didn’t try to overcontrol the pace. It was also one of the first times I was able to pick it up just a little near the end and make it stick. (My first 2000+ Polar Calorie run, too.) Does that mean you have a CRM?  Calorie Rate Monitor?

Nyuk. Yeah, a 710. I got it for use on the bike, too (mistake). As you’ve mentioned, the graphing is pretty neat. Thanks for the report Layne.

It really was my pleasure. Thanks, Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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Nyuk. Yeah, a 710. I got it for use on the bike, too (mistake). As you’ve mentioned, the graphing is pretty neat.

I guess I could quit calling it an S710 and just say 710.  Sounds like you got one OK.  Man, it took me almost 6 months to get mine and it will be a year old at the end of this year. I skipped another race yesterday.  I had planned on helping, but ended up just running around taking pictures.  I got second place in that race last year, but found out this year the age groups 40 and over were over a 10 year spread instead of a 5 year spread.  I hate that when they do that. I also found out that, next year, there will be 7 indoor track meets instead of 4.  In other words it will be every week instead of every other week.  I don’t know if I like that.  I’ll find out. Roger The rec.running report archives may be found at

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Personal Time: 2:12:20 gun time (2:11:45 watch time) Personal Pace: 10:06

Layne,    Your pacing was impressive. A shame it was so darned warm! (17 degrees with a 5-10 mph wind this morning) Leo

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Nyuk. Yeah, a 710. I got it for use on the bike, too (mistake). As you’ve mentioned, the graphing is pretty neat. I guess I could quit calling it an S710 and just say 710.  Sounds like you got one OK.  Man, it took me almost 6 months to get mine and it will be a year old at the end of this year.

I gave my old 210 to Susan (knowing that she only runs with a watch and sometimes not even a watch). The 710 has been OK after I learned to sync it away from the start line crowd. I skipped another race yesterday.  I had planned on helping, but ended up just running around taking pictures.  I got second place in that race last year, but found out this year the age groups 40 and over were over a 10 year spread instead of a 5 year spread.  I hate that when they do that.

That’s a bummer but taking pictures is good. I’ve done that for a few races when I’d volunteered but they didn’t need me. Yeah, the AG thing is kinda weird. Of course, with my "speed" I doesn’t really matter. I also found out that, next year, there will be 7 indoor track meets instead of 4.  In other words it will be every week instead of every other week.  I don’t know if I like that.  I’ll find out.

Good for them. I’d rather have choices (although it is hard not to participate). Are you planning on some shorter distances? I’d like to do a few open track meets next year just for the experience. Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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Hi, Leo, Personal Time: 2:12:20 gun time (2:11:45 watch time) Personal Pace: 10:06 Layne,   Your pacing was impressive. A shame it was so darned warm! (17 degrees with a 5-10 mph wind this morning)

Thanks. The pacing surprised me, too. Hmm, 17F with a wind. You’d need a pretty thick singlet for that, wouldn’t you? Low 40Fs seem about right for me. I’ve also found that the cooler weather seems to help my knees. Thanks, Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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Congratulations Layne on your first 1/2 Marathon!  Nice run.  It sounds like you ran a well controlled race.  Negative splits also.   Do you feel you can improve that time on your next 1/2?   Well Done. Anthony.

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Good for them. I’d rather have choices (although it is hard not to participate). Are you planning on some shorter distances? I’d like to do a few open track meets next year just for the experience. Layne

Last year I ran a 1600 and had a lot of fun.  If I have to run another distance besides a 5k I will. However, the last time I tried a 400, I was passed before I was even started.  I couldn’t believe how quick some of the people can be right off the starting line blocks. Roger The rec.running report archives may be found at

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Great race, Layne.  I’ve that race a couple of times and always enjoyed it. The only thing I can see that you might look at for your next half is the timing on the Gu.  I might have taken it in a little sooner, at about the 1:15 mark or so. Or use a flask and take it in smaller amounts through the race (my preference.) Which Half are you doing next? JAX? Mike t. "IronPenguin"

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Location: Jacksonville, Florida, USA   http://www.1stplacesports.com/obdc2002halfres.htm   This was an event of firsts for me: first half marathon, first event that Susan’s son Chris ran with us, first use of something other than fluid during the event, and first nature call during an event (I’m so proud). I ran the 6K companion last year and enjoyed it. The half was a different beast but still just as enjoyable. Successes: finished my first half marathon, had a very good time and felt that way at the finish line, no injuries, came in under the 2:20 I expected, and am looking forward to the next half in two weeks. Disappointments: Absolutely none.

That’s just fantastic, Layne! A big Congratulations! Yeah, I know, 43F is a warm spell for some folks but it’s considered fairly cool around here. Most prerun conversation was about what kind of gear to

Heehee, I can relate. Same with us Zonies, we can’t figure out what to wear if it’s under 50F! Way too cold… leaving it. I told Susan to go on and I’d try to catch up or see her at the finish. One thing I learned from this experience is that when you try to hurry some things they just take longer.

Ain’t that the truth! I was completely shocked in my first marathon with everyone running off and just peeing in the bushes- until I had to go. Then, I understood completely . We talked with people we knew and waited for the awards ceremony. Susan came in AG 4th. The friendly rival she had beaten in the 10 mile Pumpkin Run had edged her out by 34 seconds. No matter. Susan had as much fun as I did and set a new PB. Chris wasn’t as pleased with his run as he expected to do much Layne

So glad it was fun and you had no injuries, AND ran a faster time than you expected! What a rush! Kudos to Susan for her AG 4th too! And again, thanks for another fun read!! Teresa in AZ

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Hi, Mike, Great race, Layne.  I’ve that race a couple of times and always enjoyed it.

Thanks. Yeah, you woulda liked this year – great weather and the usual weirdness. The 6K also had a bunch of speedsters who were saving themselves for the Jax marathon on the 15th. The only thing I can see that you might look at for your next half is the timing on the Gu.  I might have taken it in a little sooner, at about the 1:15 mark or so.

I kinda wondered about that. I guess they didn’t have a water stop any earlier. To tell the truth I had planned on not taking any Gu but the volunteer was there holding a banana Gu, I was there, … Or use a flask and take it in smaller amounts through the race (my preference.)

I’ll try that. Thanks. Which Half are you doing next? JAX?

You betcha. It’s small, it’s close, and I’m stoked about halves now. Are ya’ll coming down for it? The Race for the Cure and Fesitval of Lights 5Ks are this Saturday <G. Just in case ya’ll needed some reason to come to Jax two weekends in a row. Thanks, Layne Mike t. "IronPenguin"

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Hi, Teresa, Location: Jacksonville, Florida, USA   http://www.1stplacesports.com/obdc2002halfres.htm That’s just fantastic, Layne! A big Congratulations!

Thank you. The good vibes from it are still around. Yeah, I know, 43F is a warm spell for some folks but it’s considered fairly cool around here. Most prerun conversation was about what kind of gear to Heehee, I can relate. Same with us Zonies, we can’t figure out what to wear if it’s under 50F! Way too cold…

LOL. Before the start I was standing next to a guy with multiple layers, hat, ear muffs, scarf, tights, and what looked like a football jersey on top of everything. He wanted to know if I was cold. I said yeah, but only for the next few minutes. How some of those people got out of their britches without stopping I’ll never know. leaving it. I told Susan to go on and I’d try to catch up or see her at the finish. One thing I learned from this experience is that when you try to hurry some things they just take longer. Ain’t that the truth! I was completely shocked in my first marathon with everyone running off and just peeing in the bushes- until I had to go. Then, I understood completely .

Yeah. I’m usually not shy about heading for the bushes but for some reason, it was difficult to stop running. Trail runs might be easier. Next time, I’ll remember to go before I leave the house. So glad it was fun and you had no injuries, AND ran a faster time than you expected! What a rush! Kudos to Susan for her AG 4th too! And again, thanks for another fun read!!

That’s nice of you to say. Actually, I would have been OK with a 2:30. And, you’re right, it was/is a rush. I’m a little worried about the next half measuring up to this one. Ah, well, we’ll just have to give it our best effort (to enjoy ourselves even more). I’ll tell Susan. She’s still AG 2nd for the Jax Grand Prix – even missing an event. You and she are really rockin’ in the year Prixs (prix’s, prixes, priae?). Thanks, Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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Congratulations Layne on your first 1/2 Marathon!  Nice run.  It sounds like you ran a well controlled race.  Negative splits also.

Thanks, Anthony. You’re right, it really did seem like a controlled run.  Do you feel you can improve that time on your next 1/2?

Good question – and one I’ve been asking myself. The course is very similar (around here ALL the road courses are pretty similar). Pick up the pace a little with no nature breaks and who knows. I do have a little more understanding about why folks like the half.  Well Done.

Thanks, Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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Which Half are you doing next? JAX? You betcha. It’s small, it’s close, and I’m stoked about halves now. Are ya’ll coming down for it? The Race for the Cure and Fesitval of Lights 5Ks are this Saturday <G. Just in case ya’ll needed some reason to come to Jax two weekends in a row.

We may come down and spectate. One of the ladies in the club is doing the full as her first marathon and she was very supportive of Toni and her friends this summer. So they want to go down and cheer her in. There’s a 5K here on the 14th we’ll probably do. I thought briefly of doing the half, and I still might, but odds are against it. A 5K and a Half-M back to back might be stretching it a bit for someone who’s supposed to be recovering. <g Mike Tennent "IronPenguin"

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Which Half are you doing next? JAX? You betcha. It’s small, it’s close, and I’m stoked about halves now. Are ya’ll coming down for it? The Race for the Cure and Fesitval of Lights 5Ks are this Saturday <G. Just in case ya’ll needed some reason to come to Jax two weekends in a row. We may come down and spectate. One of the ladies in the club is doing the full as her first marathon and she was very supportive of Toni and her friends this summer. So they want to go down and cheer her in.

That’s nice of ya’ll. I’m sure that she’ll appreciate it. The MOSH has their winter trains set up, as I’m sure you already knew. There’s a 5K here on the 14th we’ll probably do. I thought briefly of doing the half, and I still might, but odds are against it. A 5K and a Half-M back to back might be stretching it a bit for someone who’s supposed to be recovering. <g

Yikes. Well, you’re always welcome to run back with us. r.r’s Craig will be running it. I haven’t had a chance to talk with Dr. Dickie about whether he’ll be running it or not. They’ll be quite a bit in front of us. 7:00 a.m. is gonna come pretty early. Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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