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admin — Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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In article , "Canadave" wrote: > Two-thirds done. 66.7% 32/48. 32 down, 16 to go. > Obsessing about numbers? Maybe a bit! The worst is definitely over (I > hope) but it would be nice to feel normal. Did anyone who is finished > experience any surprises in the last few months? Maybe I don’t want to > know!

Only one surprise after my six months and that was slipping into a slow depression that had been easily treatable. Other than that everything is good! > Anyway, I’m very optimistic about the end of tx…I was clear at 12 weeks > and like I said, am confident that the worst of the sides were over. This > group has been very helpful, even though I mostly lurk. Thanks, everyone!

You might get to feeling dragged down, a lot of people do, but the last couple of weeks – for me, at least – were a breeze (relatively) knowing it was going to be over soon. G

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In article , "Dragonback" wrote: > At least in my case the last few months-weeks-days were pretty easy. Today > is the first day of no Riba, tonight will be the 1st Friday (in the last 48) > with no shot!

I felt noticeably better every day after stopping the Riba. Enjoy it! G

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Goes by slow doesn’t it Dave! Hey wanted to ask you about the rash, my doctor gave me a new cream and this one works well for me. buster ( don’t have it handy to give u the name right now but if u want it respond) "Canadave" wrote in message

news:fIWdnYwMofdWIATenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Two-thirds done. 66.7% 32/48. 32 down, 16 to go. > Obsessing about numbers? Maybe a bit! The worst is definitely over (I > hope) but it would be nice to feel normal. Did anyone who is finished > experience any surprises in the last few months? Maybe I don’t want to > know! > Anyway, I’m very optimistic about the end of tx…I was clear at 12 weeks > and like I said, am confident that the worst of the sides were over. This > group has been very helpful, even though I mostly lurk. Thanks, everyone! > Get well and stay well, > David > Day 224 of 336. ;-)

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"Waterspider" wrote in message

news:11pjhsq8h30b965@corp.supernews.com… >after I did my shot, I would draw a big checkmark in the next empty box.

Done it! ;-) David

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The rash lasted about 2 months, but is mostly gone now! I think my body just adjusted…I don’t think it was any of the lotions, potions or creams. Thanks Buster! David PS What is the cream? Others may benefit. "buster" wrote in message

news:Ewqmf.52506$sg5.16325@dukeread12… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Goes by slow doesn’t it Dave! Hey wanted to ask you about the rash, my > doctor gave me a new cream and this one works well for me. buster ( > don’t have it handy to give u the name right now but if u want it respond)

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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:24:30 -0500, "Canadave" , in message ID , in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >Two-thirds done. 66.7% 32/48. 32 down, 16 to go. >Obsessing about numbers? Maybe a bit! The worst is definitely over (I >hope) but it would be nice to feel normal. Did anyone who is finished >experience any surprises in the last few months? Maybe I don’t want to >know!

Well I did bump along the bottom emotionally in the last third of tx. IThat was the pointwhen it started to really grind me down. The good news for you though is that this info is totally irrelevant to you because my last third was from 16 to 24 weeks. You’ve already been through that bit. Also, it affects everybody differently anyway. — Paul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email

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Wow David I remember like yesterday when you started – time flies even when your not having fun eh? Mags "Canadave" wrote in message

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"Dragonback" wrote… > …Today is the first day of no Riba, tonight will be the 1st Friday (in > the last 48) with no shot! > Scott

WOO-HOOOOO!!! That must be a sweet feeling! D

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"Canadave" wrote in message

news:fIWdnYwMofdWIATenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rogers.com… > Two-thirds done. 66.7% 32/48. 32 down, 16 to go. > Obsessing about numbers? Maybe a bit!

When I started tx, I made a little calendar of weeks of treatment with the date, shot number and number of remaining shots. I hung in on the wall in my bathroom, and each Friday, after I did my shot, I would draw a big checkmark in the next empty box. And you think you’re obsessing…. hahahahaha, you’re not even close! Seriously, congratulations Dave, you’re well on the home stretch and the ball is still way up in the sky. I’ll bet you can see home plate from where you are, and you’re getting closer to it every day… the crowd roars, "DAY – VID – DAY – VID – DAY – VID – " and the popcorn vendors can’t take their eyes off the action on the field! Waterspider

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I obsess about numbers chronically- so I can just imagine what I’m going to be like come treatment start. Doug "Canadave" wrote in message

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doug, when is your birthday, when were you born and where? I have the tools to help you on your ride. Bob "Doug" wrote in message

news:M8SdnQGvlMgPUQTeRVn-jQ@adelphia.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I obsess about numbers chronically- so I can just imagine what I’m going >to be like come treatment start. Doug > "Canadave" wrote in message > news:fIWdnYwMofdWIATenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rogers.com… >> Two-thirds done. 66.7% 32/48. 32 down, 16 to go. >> Obsessing about numbers? Maybe a bit! The worst is definitely over (I >> hope) but it would be nice to feel normal. Did anyone who is finished >> experience any surprises in the last few months? Maybe I don’t want to >> know! >> Anyway, I’m very optimistic about the end of tx…I was clear at 12 weeks >> and like I said, am confident that the worst of the sides were over. >> This group has been very helpful, even though I mostly lurk. Thanks, >> everyone! >> Get well and stay well, >> David >> Day 224 of 336. ;-)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Waterspider wrote: > "Canadave" wrote in message > news:fIWdnYwMofdWIATenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rogers.com… >>Two-thirds done. 66.7% 32/48. 32 down, 16 to go. >>Obsessing about numbers? Maybe a bit! > When I started tx, I made a little calendar of weeks of treatment with the > date, shot number and number of remaining shots. I hung in on the wall in my > bathroom, and each Friday, after I did my shot, I would draw a big checkmark > in the next empty box. And you think you’re obsessing…. hahahahaha, you’re > not even close! > Seriously, congratulations Dave, you’re well on the home stretch and the > ball is still way up in the sky. I’ll bet you can see home plate from where > you are, and you’re getting closer to it every day… the crowd roars, > "DAY – VID – DAY – VID – DAY – VID – " and the popcorn vendors can’t take > their eyes off the action on the field! > Waterspider

I seem to remember keeping a running track of my shots all the way to number 60. Good thing I quit when I did because I wouldn’t have been able to keep posting from the hospital a week after stopping. Dwight

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Two-thirds done. 66.7% 32/48. 32 down, 16 to go. Obsessing about numbers? Maybe a bit! The worst is definitely over (I hope) but it would be nice to feel normal. Did anyone who is finished experience any surprises in the last few months? Maybe I don’t want to know! Anyway, I’m very optimistic about the end of tx…I was clear at 12 weeks and like I said, am confident that the worst of the sides were over. This group has been very helpful, even though I mostly lurk. Thanks, everyone! Get well and stay well, David Day 224 of 336. ;-)

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At least in my case the last few months-weeks-days were pretty easy. Today is the first day of no Riba, tonight will be the 1st Friday (in the last 48) with no shot! Scott "Canadave" wrote in message

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Legend of the seas-Hawaii cruise missed maui

admin — Sun, 12 Dec 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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The ship will go to be refurbished in April or May according to crew members with whom I spoke. You may check with cruise line….my opinion is that this ship is being less maintained because of this anticipated refurbishment,,,I cannot prove it to you…I can just tell you the ship is not in the best shape and Merry Christmas to you too!!!!

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missed maui because of weather disallowing tendering…so we went to honolulu for 24 hours 6 am to 6 pm-still could not do luau…it rained in hilo…

It sounds like you had some bad weather on your cruise, I am sorry to hear that. You missed a couple of ports and I know that is disappointing. Cruising to Hawaii is not a cruise people schedule all the time. I am sure there were plenty of people on your ship who saved their money all year to pay for this cruise. Becca <—–it is too bad they do not offer a weather guarantee… MOAGC http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com/ Miracle in May http://www.cruisemaster.com/miracle.htm Canada – New England http://www.cruisemaster.com/carnivalFall.htm Caribbean Princess http://www.cruisemaster.com/caribprin.htm

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The ship will go to be refurbished in April or May according to crew members with whom I spoke.

Egggssseeelllent! Warren, crossing westbound aboard Legend of the Seas for 14 days next October. File this under the category: Never say never again, ever. remove the drink to email Y

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Which part of this would require using a dry dock? Do you think the bumpy ride was something caused by the ship?

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Carpeting was stained in many places…rusting along pool edges very visible…in room window had streaks and dirty grouting was visible…our trip was bumpy going to hawaii so there were a lot of passengers who hurled and the aroma wafted at certain areas…walking/running track was in need of repair…you have to understand we had poor weather, lot of seasickness aboard and little sun to lie under except in solarium…rccl did the best they could but ship was not up to our expectations…we have been on ship 4 times and have noticed deterioration…just my two cents!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m curious what was wrong with the ship to influence your opinion that it needed dry-docking?? I was on the Legend this past March and found it to be in quite good condition. Granted, there were a few places where it needed some work, but to my eyes it was in pretty good shape. Maybe I missed some things. Neilo

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Just got off hawaii cruise on legend of the seas-rccl older ship in need of repair…missed maui because of weather disallowing tendering…so we went to honolulu for 24 hours 6 am to 6 pm-still could not do luau…it rained in hilo…kona was okay and kauai was kind of cool…still it seems cruise did not live up to expectations as ship apparently will go to drydock in may for major renovation which i believe it needs now…shows were good especially rccl singers, lenny welch "you dont know me" 1960 and argentinian gauchos…oh well cruise

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I’m curious what was wrong with the ship to influence your opinion that it needed dry-docking?? I was on the Legend this past March and found it to be in quite good condition. Granted, there were a few places where it needed some work, but to my eyes it was in pretty good shape. Maybe I missed some things. Neilo

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just got off hawaii cruise on legend of the seas-rccl older ship in need of repair…missed maui because of weather disallowing tendering…so we went to honolulu for 24 hours 6 am to 6 pm-still could not do luau…it rained in hilo…kona was okay and kauai was kind of cool…still it seems cruise did not live up to expectations as ship apparently will go to drydock in may for major renovation which i believe it needs now…shows were good especially rccl singers, lenny welch "you dont know me" 1960 and argentinian gauchos…oh well cruise

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Which part of this would require using a dry dock? Do you think the bumpy ride was something caused by the ship?

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missed maui because of weather disallowing tendering…so we went to honolulu for 24 hours 6 am to 6 pm-still could not do luau…it rained in hilo…

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The ship will go to be refurbished in April or May according to crew members with whom I spoke.

Egggssseeelllent! Warren, crossing westbound aboard Legend of the Seas for 14 days next October. File this under the category: Never say never again, ever. remove the drink to email Y

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RR: EK Half Marathon (longish)

admin — Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now that mile 10 is done, the legs are feeling done in, can I somehow dig out 8 min miles for the last 2 to get close to the elusive 1′45? Looks unlikely as the legs are really tying up, but there are some downhill portions so just keep putting one foot in front of the next and somehow mile 12 passes in 7′40 – ya beauty! I know there is a harsh uphill in the last mile but I’m ready for it, slows me down quite a bit but I knew it and there is only half a mile to go, just keep pushing. Really tired and sore now, right calf screams at me a couple of time but I adjust my stride and ignore it. On the track now, where’s that 13 mile marker? See it up ahead so start giving it all thats left. See one guy ahead who cruised past me at mile 11 and I’m reeling him in, literally pipped him at the line and the time? 1h45m25s, fantastic! I am delighted as my goal has been achieved and although I’ll be away for 4 weeks, I am hopeful that I can complete the Loch Ness Marathon in under 4 hours now. Great report. I was willing you along all the way while I was reading it How come I can’t remember races in that amount of detail? Maybe I’ll carry a tape recorder with me…

Thanks! I often enjoy the race reports on here so I thought I would make the effort to describe my race in some detail. Its easier to remember when you’ve had a good day at the office, just like everyone else, I’ve had my fair share of bad days. Anyway, I’m glad you enjoyed it, job done

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I am delighted as my goal has been achieved and although I’ll be away for 4 weeks, I am hopeful that I can complete the Loch Ness Marathon in under 4 hours now.

Certainly. Well under 4 hours. I’m guessing 3:4x-ish. That’s assuming your marathon training is going well (increased weekly mileage, long runs, etc.) Lesson learned – mileage is key.

Yep. Thanks for the report. Good luck in your marathon. 15 weeks to go, right? Phil M. — "I gotta go. You’re killin’ me."

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1h45m25s, fantastic! I am delighted as my goal has been achieved and although I’ll be away for 4 weeks, I am hopeful that I can complete the Loch Ness Marathon in under 4 hours now.

Well done ZB! On target and a negative split. Tim —

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I am delighted as my goal has been achieved and although I’ll be away for 4 weeks, I am hopeful that I can complete the Loch Ness Marathon in under 4 hours now. Certainly. Well under 4 hours. I’m guessing 3:4x-ish. That’s assuming your marathon training is going well (increased weekly mileage, long runs, etc.)

Here’s hoping! Lesson learned – mileage is key. Yep. Thanks for the report. Good luck in your marathon. 15 weeks to go, right?

Cheers, that’s right, its on October 3rd. Problem is I’m in India for 4 weeks so I need to figure out a way to keep the mileage at least level while I’m out there.

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1h45m25s, fantastic! I am delighted as my goal has been achieved and although I’ll be away for 4 weeks, I am hopeful that I can complete the Loch Ness Marathon in under 4 hours now. Well done ZB! On target and a negative split.

Cheers! Yep, happy with that time, I’ve aimed for 1′45 3 times now and buggered it up so I was happy to get it under my belt (when I said it was 4 mins off my PB, now sure if it read correcltry, my previous PB was 1′49).

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I was staying near Delhi for a couple of weeks this year, I didnt even bother trying to run outside

. I managed to change hotels to one with a gym (near the airport). I didnt see a single person running outside while I was there. Two ideas I had (since the trip) would be to try and find a running track (at a university) or go and run around the perimeter of a golf course.

If India is as hot and humid as Sri Lanka at this time of year, the only time you might want to run is at first light – say 0400! Got to be when the air-conditioned gym with a treadmill comes into it’s own….though the chances of finding that outside the main urban centres is a bit remote. The Uni running track is a good idea – or a horse track, but you’d need to watch out for the local fauna ! Roger — ‘Course Blair isn’t America’s poodle – prison bitch more like ‘ Sir Andrew Hamilton of the British Broadcasting Corporation

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ZB – great effort! Congrats on the PR and a nicely run race. Good luck with the upcoming marathon training. Keep up the steady increases and try and get in a few 30-35K long runs before the taper. I hope you find a reasonable solution for running in India. Anthony.

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Thanks Anthony.

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Cheers, that’s right, its on October 3rd. Problem is I’m in India for 4 weeks so I need to figure out a way to keep the mileage at least level while I’m out there.

I was staying near Delhi for a couple of weeks this year, I didnt even bother trying to run outside. I managed to change hotels to one with a gym (near the airport). I didnt see a single person running outside while I was there. Two ideas I had (since the trip) would be to try and find a running track (at a university) or go and run around the perimeter of a golf course. enjoy India mike

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Cheers, that’s right, its on October 3rd. Problem is I’m in India for 4 weeks so I need to figure out a way to keep the mileage at least level while I’m out there.

You might try a google groups search at http://www.google.com/groups. I did and your oulook doesn’t look good. Lots of polution and traffic (at least near the larger cities). Phil M. — "I gotta go. You’re killin’ me."

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Now that mile 10 is done, the legs are feeling done in, can I somehow dig out 8 min miles for the last 2 to get close to the elusive 1′45? Looks unlikely as the legs are really tying up, but there are some downhill portions so just keep putting one foot in front of the next and somehow mile 12 passes in 7′40 – ya beauty! I know there is a harsh uphill in the last mile but I’m ready for it, slows me down quite a bit but I knew it and there is only half a mile to go, just keep pushing. Really tired and sore now, right calf screams at me a couple of time but I adjust my stride and ignore it. On the track now, where’s that 13 mile marker? See it up ahead so start giving it all thats left. See one guy ahead who cruised past me at mile 11 and I’m reeling him in, literally pipped him at the line and the time? 1h45m25s, fantastic! I am delighted as my goal has been achieved and although I’ll be away for 4 weeks, I am hopeful that I can complete the Loch Ness Marathon in under 4 hours now.

Great report. I was willing you along all the way while I was reading it How come I can’t remember races in that amount of detail? Maybe I’ll carry a tape recorder with me… Paul

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Woke up this morning and looked out of the window – the perfect weather for running. Very little wind, temperature about 11 C, mostly cloud cover. I thought, its now or never, I’m rested, carb loaded, training has been fairly solid without injury until a dodgy hamstring developed on Thursday. God knows where it came from because I hadnt done much training this week. Anyway, a trip to a sports massage therapist on Saturday worked away most of the stiffness so I was confident it would hold out. Showered to wake up, had a toast, glass of OJ and made myself a nice fresh coffee which I supped until my mate turned up (late as usual) and off we went with barely enough time to warm up. Frustratingly as we lined up, an announcement came up that there had been an accident on the route and the start was indefinitely delayed – bugger, Ive just had some sports drink and now the delay means I need to go to the toilet. Plus the warm up was slowly cooling down so did a few more jogs up and down waiting for the start. Accident sorted & we’re off, started off slowly enforced by the pack which was good, but got to the first mile marker in 8′17, hmm a bit fast as I am aiming for 1′45 which is 4 mins off my PB. Anyway, although legs felt heavy, no probs, slowed down slightly on the 2nd downhill mile for 8′33. Now the increased distance training paid off, miles 3 and 4 were quickish due to more flat and downhill portions but almost a 3rd done and I’m feeling good. Mile 6, I felt the first twinges shoot through the quads and hams but ignored it and glided through to mile 8 which was a nasty uphill, still its downhill again for a bit after this so no probs. Get to mile 10 and fatigue is really setting in, my mind keeps telling me that if I do 9s from now to the finish, I’ll still beat my PB. But just then, a lady went past me just as I was talking myself into slowing down. I imagined that she was the elusive 1′45 and that I had to keep up with her and it worked for the uphill as she "pulled" me up the hardest mile of the course. Now that mile 10 is done, the legs are feeling done in, can I somehow dig out 8 min miles for the last 2 to get close to the elusive 1′45? Looks unlikely as the legs are really tying up, but there are some downhill portions so just keep putting one foot in front of the next and somehow mile 12 passes in 7′40 – ya beauty! I know there is a harsh uphill in the last mile but I’m ready for it, slows me down quite a bit but I knew it and there is only half a mile to go, just keep pushing. Really tired and sore now, right calf screams at me a couple of time but I adjust my stride and ignore it. On the track now, where’s that 13 mile marker? See it up ahead so start giving it all thats left. See one guy ahead who cruised past me at mile 11 and I’m reeling him in, literally pipped him at the line and the time? 1h45m25s, fantastic! I am delighted as my goal has been achieved and although I’ll be away for 4 weeks, I am hopeful that I can complete the Loch Ness Marathon in under 4 hours now. Lesson learned – mileage is key. I’d done a couple of 14 milers this year and psychologically, 13 miles does not seem too bad even though the last 3 miles were a killer. Plus running a few weeks at 25-30 miles, you have sufficient left in the tank as proved by myself digging out 8 min miles for the last few miles when I didnt think I had it in me. Its hard but I am going to try and get the mileage up to 40 miles plus per week before the marathon and get a few 3 hour runs in. Plus dont listen to those voices in your head telling you to slow down, you’ll regret it at the end! Splits: Mile 1: 8′17 Mile 2: 8′33 Mile 3: 7′45 Mile 4: 7′51 Mile 5: 8′03 Mile 6: 8′15 uphill Mile 7: 8′01 Mile 8: 7′24 Mile 9: 8′03 Mile 10: 8′00 Mile 11: 8′20 uphill Mile 12: 7′40 Mile 13: 8′30 13-13.1: 0′38 I make it a 47 second negative split so I am delighted with that!

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The plan is coming together..

admin — Sun, 16 May 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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Wow, Bev, all that sounds great! With the change to WW are you still going to be using FitDay or will you be switching over to the points system? – Dewolla Stepon

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Exercise: I stopped at the local Bally facilities Friday and will be changing gyms next week. I took a tour of the facilities and met with a couple of the trainers. The trainers were both young but seemed very knowledgeable and helpful. Both were interested in what *I* wanted to achieve from the program. I was glad to hear they’ll be doing some renovations this summer and adding a room for spinning classes. I’ll be stopping in Friday for the orientation and starting evaluation. As the lady was doing the paper work she indicated she had made a mistake on the monthly fee – it would be lower than she had stated as I qualified for the senior discount. She said she didn’t realize I was old enough for it

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Exercise: I stopped at the local Bally facilities Friday and will be changing gyms next week. I took a tour of the facilities and met with a couple of the trainers. The trainers were both young but seemed very knowledgeable and helpful. Both were interested in what *I* wanted to achieve from the program. I was glad to hear they’ll be doing some renovations this summer and adding a room for spinning classes. I’ll be stopping in Friday for the orientation and starting evaluation. As the lady was doing the paper work she indicated she had made a mistake on the monthly fee – it would be lower than she had stated as I qualified for the senior discount. She said she didn’t realize I was old enough for it

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Beverly, all these things you’re doing sound like great news. I don’t know what Bally is because I don’t think we have them here, but I’ll be interested to know if you found Curves had helped you to prepare for a "real" gym. I actually got around to phoning the nearest Curves to me this week, and may go for a free tour round to see more – the problem is it’s still a bit of a way to get to which may not be too easy to fit in at least 3 times a week. However, I think it might help prepare me for more serious stuff. Good luck with the WW programme – does that mean WW comes to your workplace, if so that sounds a good idea for busy people. Congratulations on the bike qualification – it sounds as if you’re all set for a great summer (and a busy one!). janice – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Exercise: I stopped at the local Bally facilities Friday and will be changing gyms next week. I took a tour of the facilities and met with a couple of the trainers. The trainers were both young but seemed very knowledgeable and helpful. Both were interested in what *I* wanted to achieve from the program. I was glad to hear they’ll be doing some renovations this summer and adding a room for spinning classes. I’ll be stopping in Friday for the orientation and starting evaluation. As the lady was doing the paper work she indicated she had made a mistake on the monthly fee – it would be lower than she had stated as I qualified for the senior discount. She said she didn’t realize I was old enough for it

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Wow, Bev, all that sounds great! With the change to WW are you still going to be using FitDay or will you be switching over to the points system? – Dewolla Stepon

I’ll still be using Fitday. I want to track the carb/protein/fat ratios and the calories. I’ll use the point system as a guideline. WW was the plan I used when I lost my original weight back in ‘84. I still tracked the calories at that time. I doubt I’ll ever find a program where I wouldn’t be inclined to track calories

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With everything in place I’m hoping to see a weight loss and gain in strength and endurance over the next few months. Beverly

Beverly, It really does sound like everything is coming together for you. Looks like you’re set for a fabulous and successful summer. I hope all works great for you! Jenn

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Beverly, your commitment to fitness and your youthful lifestyle are a real inspiration to me! Congratulations on these changes you’re making! Chris 262/152/ (145-150)

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Those all sound like very positive changes! Plus, getting a discount is always good…

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Hi Bev, Congrats on the bike patrol graduation! I’m sure you’ll do fine. I joined a Bally’s too and really like it. The atmosphere is great and a lot better than working out at home in my opinion. When I need to workout and don’t have time on my side I will workout at home, but I think there is something about being with others that have the same type of goals like getting in better shape makes it a better place to workout. Have a great day, Paul 300/181/175

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I really enjoyed my year at Curves. It was convenient and was a great way to get into regular weight training. I didn’t have to worry about dropping weights, etc

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Beverly, your commitment to fitness and your youthful lifestyle are a real inspiration to me! Congratulations on these changes you’re making! Chris 262/152/ (145-150)

Thanks Chris. I really appreciate this as you certainly have been an inspiration for me. The posts on weight training from you and others in the group definitely influenced my decision to change gyms. Beverly

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Those all sound like very positive changes! Plus, getting a discount is always good…

Thanks Perple. I’ve been really surprised at some of the senior discounts I’ve discovered – restaurants, department stores, amusement parks, lawn services, etc. Beverly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Exercise: I stopped at the local Bally facilities Friday and will be changing gyms next week. I took a tour of the facilities and met with a couple of the trainers. The trainers were both young but seemed very knowledgeable and helpful. Both were interested in what *I* wanted to achieve from the program. I was glad to hear they’ll be doing some renovations this summer and adding a room for spinning classes. I’ll be stopping in Friday for the orientation and starting evaluation. As the lady was doing the paper work she indicated she had made a mistake on the monthly fee – it would be lower than she had stated as I qualified for the senior discount. She said she didn’t realize I was old enough for it

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t have a scooter and it’s been years since I’ve been on one. They were quite the rage when I was a teenager. My first boyfriend had a Lambretta and we went everywhere on that thing. After filling the van up over the weekend I probably should consider getting one

It was the late ’50’s for me

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I don’t have a scooter and it’s been years since I’ve been on one. They were quite the rage when I was a teenager. My first boyfriend had a Lambretta and we went everywhere on that thing. After filling the van up over the weekend I probably should consider getting one

Hey, I had one of those, in the early ’60s (I’m referring ot the lambretta, not the boyfriend, LOL!). Quite trendy then, as well as useful as we lived out in the countryside. I don’t think I’d go back to doing that now – the volume of traffic on the roads has increased beyond recognition and I’m not as brave as I used to be:) janice

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Jenn. I’m looking forward to increasing my endurance levels this summer. Some of these days on the bike trail can be long. It’s not unusual to do 50-75 miles in a day while patroling. Beverly We have a bike trail that’s 18.2 miles long. My goal this summer is to ride it both ways. If my legs don’t hold up for running anymore, then biking is definitely going to be my sport of choice this summer. I love it! I think that I mentioned before that I used to run. It turns out that my knees were not designed for it I tried taking up running again after I got to my maintenance weight and by the time I got up to 5 mile runs, my knees were complaining again so I went back to the bike. This weekend I rode to Chapel Hill. I was pretty excited about that. Now I need a loop that goes through that area (on bike appropriate roads) so that I can eliminate some of the out and back portion. As an aside, I was wondering if any of you have a scooter? I am interested in learning more about Vespas. I don’t have cycling appropriate roads on the way to work but I could ride a scooter (vespas get to about 60 mph). It looks fun and they get up to 65 mpg so with gas prices… Of course, I would have to ride it *a lot* of miles to use that as a justfication, huh? I guess I had better stick to pedaling

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I never was much of a runner. I tried it a few times but the knees just don’t cooperate. I’ve had minor knee problems since age 10. I jumped out of a tree and planted my left knee in a pile of broken milk bottles. It took them hours to dig the glass out of my knee. Thankfully running is about the only thing that bothers them other than trying to crawl. You should be able to handle that bike ride without any problems. Beverly

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Exercise: Diet: Biking: With everything in place I’m hoping to see a weight loss and gain in strength and endurance over the next few months. I want to be you when I grow up

~~Thanks….but I’ve decided to never grow up! I see from the sig you’re back from the vacation. Welcome back. Hope you had a great time. Beverly~~

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Exercise: Diet: Biking: With everything in place I’m hoping to see a weight loss and gain in strength and endurance over the next few months.

I want to be you when I grow up

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Thanks Jenn. I’m looking forward to increasing my endurance levels this summer. Some of these days on the bike trail can be long. It’s not unusual to do 50-75 miles in a day while patroling. Beverly We have a bike trail that’s 18.2 miles long. My goal this summer is to ride it both ways. If my legs don’t hold up for running anymore, then biking is definitely going to be my sport of choice this summer.

I love it! I think that I mentioned before that I used to run. It turns out that my knees were not designed for it I tried taking up running again after I got to my maintenance weight and by the time I got up to 5 mile runs, my knees were complaining again so I went back to the bike. This weekend I rode to Chapel Hill. I was pretty excited about that. Now I need a loop that goes through that area (on bike appropriate roads) so that I can eliminate some of the out and back portion. As an aside, I was wondering if any of you have a scooter? I am interested in learning more about Vespas. I don’t have cycling appropriate roads on the way to work but I could ride a scooter (vespas get to about 60 mph). It looks fun and they get up to 65 mpg so with gas prices… Of course, I would have to ride it *a lot* of miles to use that as a justfication, huh? I guess I had better stick to pedaling

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Thanks Jenn. I’m looking forward to increasing my endurance levels this summer. Some of these days on the bike trail can be long. It’s not unusual to do 50-75 miles in a day while patroling. Beverly

We have a bike trail that’s 18.2 miles long. My goal this summer is to ride it both ways. If my legs don’t hold up for running anymore, then biking is definitely going to be my sport of choice this summer. Jenn

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Bev, Congrats on the bike patrol graduation! I’m sure you’ll do fine. I joined a Bally’s too and really like it. The atmosphere is great and a lot better than working out at home in my opinion. When I need to workout and don’t have time on my side I will workout at home, but I think there is something about being with others that have the same type of goals like getting in better shape makes it a better place to workout. Have a great day, Paul 300/181/175

Thanks Paul. I’m glad to hear someone else goes to Bally’s. I live in a small suburb and the choice is limited. Our Bally’s has been here for quite a few years and I’ve never heard any complaints about the place. Beverly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Exercise: I stopped at the local Bally facilities Friday and will be changing gyms next week. I took a tour of the facilities and met with a couple of the trainers. The trainers were both young but seemed very knowledgeable and helpful. Both were interested in what *I* wanted to achieve from the program. I was glad to hear they’ll be doing some renovations this summer and adding a room for spinning classes. I’ll be stopping in Friday for the orientation and starting evaluation. As the lady was doing the paper work she indicated she had made a mistake on the monthly fee – it would be lower than she had stated as I qualified for the senior discount. She said she didn’t realize I was old enough for it

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – With everything in place I’m hoping to see a weight loss and gain in strength and endurance over the next few months. Beverly Beverly, It really does sound like everything is coming together for you. Looks like you’re set for a fabulous and successful summer. I hope all works great for you! Jenn

Thanks Jenn. I’m looking forward to increasing my endurance levels this summer. Some of these days on the bike trail can be long. It’s not unusual to do 50-75 miles in a day while patroling. Beverly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Sounds like a reaosnable plan. Your grandchildren should be proud.

Thanks Ig. After learning that I joined the gym, one of my daughters has decided that she and her two girls should take advantage of the local Y program for families
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exercised 5 days aiming for six

admin — Fri, 07 May 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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@comcast.net says… i’m just here right now getting ready for low carbing…

Hi Nessa, welcome to the group! — Saffire 205/158/125 - 5′2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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I have started my exercise program and I’m walking a little further to catch the bus for work now which is about a 15 min walk. i also do the walk away the pounds tapes I am up to a mile and a half and starting sunday will go and use the gym in my apartment building and use the treadmill on my days off. Did pretty good with my eating today. And will do even better tomorrow. Instead of eating something at work like I normally do I brought my own dinner. So things are going good so far. Angie

good for you angie. i’m just here right now getting ready for low carbing…

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i’m not doing a hole lot. didn’t end up going to the gym but went roller blading after work instead to enjoy the beautiful summers day angie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – try not to over do it. It is easy to do and you won’t know it until you’ve done it. You’re doing great. :: walked 2 miles and its only 7 o’clock. making this day 7 for :: exercising. i ‘m heading to work soon so when i come home after 3 :: this after noon , i will depending how tired i am go and work out :: more.but if i don’t no big deal cause i would have by the time i got :: home walked two more times plus walked at work for a shift of 6 hrs. :: angie :: ::: I have walking tapes that I use I do my walking indoors and as well ::: as n a treadmill. the outdoor walking that I do is between busses. ::: I don’t have time to actually go out for a walk most days. I am ::: getting up early as it is just so that I can do my exercises. I ::: work the 3 -11 shift in the evenings and some over night shifts as ::: well. But I am doing it. I have to work now tomorrow morning but I ::: will go to the gym when I get home. And then I will sleep. ::: ::: Angie ::: ::: ps thanks for the ideas though will keep them in mind :::: ::::: did 6 days of walking this week. 1.5 miles each day. and also ::::: walked to catch bus 20 – 30 mins about 3 times in a day. ::::: ::::: will work out at the gym tomorrow ::::: ::::: Angie :::: :::: As corny as this sounds, if you walk around a running track, it :::: will help you gauge your progress. Maybe you have a junior high or :::: high school somewhere nearby and you could walk there? Also, when :::: walking for fitness, be sure that you are using your thigh and :::: butt muscles. Too many people just try walking with their calf :::: muscles. Your 1 1/2 mile walk is 6 laps around a track. You could :::: time yourself and see how you are progressing. :::: :::: Pat in TX

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i’m still in the beginning stages myself. It’s not easy but I am learning and working hard at it. angie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have started my exercise program and I’m walking a little further to catch the bus for work now which is about a 15 min walk. i also do the walk away the pounds tapes I am up to a mile and a half and starting sunday will go and use the gym in my apartment building and use the treadmill on my days off. Did pretty good with my eating today. And will do even better tomorrow. Instead of eating something at work like I normally do I brought my own dinner. So things are going good so far. Angie good for you angie. i’m just here right now getting ready for low carbing…

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try not to over do it. It is easy to do and you won’t know it until you’ve done it. You’re doing great.

:: walked 2 miles and its only 7 o’clock. making this day 7 for :: exercising. i ‘m heading to work soon so when i come home after 3 :: this after noon , i will depending how tired i am go and work out :: more.but if i don’t no big deal cause i would have by the time i got :: home walked two more times plus walked at work for a shift of 6 hrs. :: angie ::

::: I have walking tapes that I use I do my walking indoors and as well ::: as n a treadmill. the outdoor walking that I do is between busses. ::: I don’t have time to actually go out for a walk most days. I am ::: getting up early as it is just so that I can do my exercises. I ::: work the 3 -11 shift in the evenings and some over night shifts as ::: well. But I am doing it. I have to work now tomorrow morning but I ::: will go to the gym when I get home. And then I will sleep. ::: ::: Angie ::: ::: ps thanks for the ideas though will keep them in mind

:::: ::::: did 6 days of walking this week. 1.5 miles each day. and also ::::: walked to catch bus 20 – 30 mins about 3 times in a day. ::::: ::::: will work out at the gym tomorrow ::::: ::::: Angie :::: :::: As corny as this sounds, if you walk around a running track, it :::: will help you gauge your progress. Maybe you have a junior high or :::: high school somewhere nearby and you could walk there? Also, when :::: walking for fitness, be sure that you are using your thigh and :::: butt muscles. Too many people just try walking with their calf :::: muscles. Your 1 1/2 mile walk is 6 laps around a track. You could :::: time yourself and see how you are progressing. :::: :::: Pat in TX

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have started my exercise program and I’m walking a little further to catch the bus for work now which is about a 15 min walk. i also do the walk away the pounds tapes I am up to a mile and a half and starting sunday will go and use the gym in my apartment building and use the treadmill on my days off. Did pretty good with my eating today. And will do even better tomorrow. Instead of eating something at work like I normally do I brought my own dinner. So things are going good so far. Angie

Little changes can go a long way to have large affects. You sound like you are on a good path for yourself now. Keep it up. — JJ.

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thanks I plan on it. I want to be back at 125lbs by my birthday. which is August 29 , that is my original weight before I gained at christmas. I figure I have about 33lbs to go before I get to my over all goal. That is if I don’t gain anymore Angie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have started my exercise program and I’m walking a little further to catch the bus for work now which is about a 15 min walk. i also do the walk away the pounds tapes I am up to a mile and a half and starting sunday will go and use the gym in my apartment building and use the treadmill on my days off. Did pretty good with my eating today. And will do even better tomorrow. Instead of eating something at work like I normally do I brought my own dinner. So things are going good so far. Angie Little changes can go a long way to have large affects. You sound like you are on a good path for yourself now. Keep it up. — JJ.

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did 6 days of walking this week. 1.5 miles each day. and also walked to catch bus 20 – 30 mins about 3 times in a day. will work out at the gym tomorrow Angie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have started my exercise program and I’m walking a little further to catch the bus for work now which is about a 15 min walk. i also do the walk away the pounds tapes I am up to a mile and a half and starting sunday will go and use the gym in my apartment building and use the treadmill on my days off. Did pretty good with my eating today. And will do even better tomorrow. Instead of eating something at work like I normally do I brought my own dinner. So things are going good so far. Angie Little changes can go a long way to have large affects. You sound like you are on a good path for yourself now. Keep it up. — JJ.

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writes: did 6 days of walking this week. 1.5 miles each day. and also walked to catch bus 20 – 30 mins about 3 times in a day.

That’s great, Angie. One thing I’ve discovered is that as my thighs have become thinner, my gait has changed. It’s now easier to walk long distances, and I can take longer strides. You’ll probably experience something like that as you go along. Working your leg muscles with long walks will help with that. will work out at the gym tomorrow

Another good idea. Daria 166/144/140 sugar-free since 2/1/04 low-carb since 2/17/04

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did 6 days of walking this week. 1.5 miles each day. and also walked to catch bus 20 – 30 mins about 3 times in a day. will work out at the gym tomorrow Angie

As corny as this sounds, if you walk around a running track, it will help you gauge your progress. Maybe you have a junior high or high school somewhere nearby and you could walk there? Also, when walking for fitness, be sure that you are using your thigh and butt muscles. Too many people just try walking with their calf muscles. Your 1 1/2 mile walk is 6 laps around a track. You could time yourself and see how you are progressing. Pat in TX

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I have walking tapes that I use I do my walking indoors and as well as n a treadmill. the outdoor walking that I do is between busses. I don’t have time to actually go out for a walk most days. I am getting up early as it is just so that I can do my exercises. I work the 3 -11 shift in the evenings and some over night shifts as well. But I am doing it. I have to work now tomorrow morning but I will go to the gym when I get home. And then I will sleep. Angie ps thanks for the ideas though will keep them in mind – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – did 6 days of walking this week. 1.5 miles each day. and also walked to catch bus 20 – 30 mins about 3 times in a day. will work out at the gym tomorrow Angie As corny as this sounds, if you walk around a running track, it will help you gauge your progress. Maybe you have a junior high or high school somewhere nearby and you could walk there? Also, when walking for fitness, be sure that you are using your thigh and butt muscles. Too many people just try walking with their calf muscles. Your 1 1/2 mile walk is 6 laps around a track. You could time yourself and see how you are progressing. Pat in TX

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walked 2 miles and its only 7 o’clock. making this day 7 for exercising. i ‘m heading to work soon so when i come home after 3 this after noon , i will depending how tired i am go and work out more.but if i don’t no big deal cause i would have by the time i got home walked two more times plus walked at work for a shift of 6 hrs. angie

I have walking tapes that I use I do my walking indoors and as well as n a treadmill. the outdoor walking that I do is between busses. I don’t have time to actually go out for a walk most days. I am getting up early as it is just so that I can do my exercises. I work the 3 -11 shift in the evenings and some over night shifts as well. But I am doing it. I have to work now tomorrow morning but I will go to the gym when I get home. And then I will sleep. Angie ps thanks for the ideas though will keep them in mind

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – did 6 days of walking this week. 1.5 miles each day. and also walked to catch bus 20 – 30 mins about 3 times in a day. will work out at the gym tomorrow Angie As corny as this sounds, if you walk around a running track, it will help you gauge your progress. Maybe you have a junior high or high school somewhere nearby and you could walk there? Also, when walking for fitness, be sure that you are using your thigh and butt muscles. Too many people just try walking with their calf muscles. Your 1 1/2 mile walk is 6 laps around a track. You could time yourself and see how you are progressing. Pat in TX

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WTG, Angie! Keep at it…

:: I have started my exercise program and I’m walking a little further :: to catch the bus for work now which is about a 15 min walk. i also :: do the walk away the pounds tapes I am up to a mile and a half and :: starting sunday will go and use the gym in my apartment building and :: use the treadmill on my days off. :: Did pretty good with my eating today. And will do even better :: tomorrow. Instead of eating something at work like I normally do I :: brought my own dinner. So things are going good so far. :: :: Angie

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I have started my exercise program and I’m walking a little further to catch the bus for work now which is about a 15 min walk. i also do the walk away the pounds tapes I am up to a mile and a half and starting sunday will go and use the gym in my apartment building and use the treadmill on my days off. Did pretty good with my eating today. And will do even better tomorrow. Instead of eating something at work like I normally do I brought my own dinner. So things are going good so far. Angie

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GPS While Running Track Laps?

admin — Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this?

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warp wrote I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this? I used my Timex on a track and it had no problems. Kristine Quilici

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I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this?

I’ve used the Garmin Forerunner for running 800m sprints which I split into 400m out and 400m back along a road. It had no problem with this. HTH Russell

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I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this?

It’s not a problem…unless there are obstructions in the path of the receiver, like a building. The University of Michigan Track has a building 5 feet from the edge of the track, and I can be off by as much as 1/20th of a mile per lap because of the obstruction caused by the building. -jeremy — — Jeremy Hallum, System Manager , Astronomy, University of Michigan "Audentis Fortuna Iuvat"

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I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this?

Why would you need a GPS unit for running laps? You already know how long a lap is, and can count, and a simple watch will give you pace. — Bob Burns Mill Hall PA

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I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this? Why would you need a GPS unit for running laps? You already know how long a lap is, and can count, and a simple watch will give you pace.

That only works if can stay in a single lane. If you have change lanes to get out of the way for a faster runner and the distance could end up a few feet longer. That can create a great deal of angst for those "precision" people. The actual mile could end up being 5,284 feet and raise havoc in ones log book. ;) — Doug "tongue way in cheek" Freese "Caveat Lector" (remove the NOBS)

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That only works if can stay in a single lane. If you have change lanes to get out of the way for a faster runner and the distance could end up a few feet longer. That can create a great deal of angst for those "precision" people. The actual mile could end up being 5,284 feet and raise havoc in ones log book. ;)

If it’s a metric track, you’re more than 30 feet short to the mile anyway (-; And you’d better stay at exactly the right distance from that white line. Cheers, — Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this?

For information on Running with a GPS checkout www.GPSrunner.net

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there is a yahoo group dedicated to the forerunner, google this group for the link. if I remember correctly the accuracy is sufficent enough to be affected by which arm you are wearing it on. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this? Why would you need a GPS unit for running laps? You already know how long a lap is, and can count, and a simple watch will give you pace. — Bob Burns Mill Hall PA

Good question Bob; I often run to the track from my home, do some laps, and then head out on a road course (not quite sure WHY I do this, but what the heck, it works). And I would be interested in total distance traveled plus the track distance.

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there is a yahoo group dedicated to the forerunner, google this group for the link. if I remember correctly the accuracy is sufficent enough to be affected by which arm you are wearing it on.

The Yahoo Group is www.groups.yahoo.com/groups/GarminF also see www.GPSrunner.net and www.GPSbiker.net John

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I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track.

Yeah, you wouldn’t want to risk getting lost, so a GPS is a must for any track runner.

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Why would you need a GPS unit for running laps?

No one "needs" these toys… But, the word that is pronounced "need" is often spelled "w a n t". And, having a new toy, most boys cannot resist the temptation to play with it.

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I have both the Timex and Garmin and ran a 10K on the track to check the calibration wearing both at the same time. Both read high. I can’t recall the exact numbers but the Timex was about 99.5% accurate and the Garmin was way off, I seem to remember about 95%. The Garmin could not handle the oval very well. All of my running loops that I have show about .05 to .1 longer using the Garmin vs the Timex. I have used the Timex in several certified marathons and it read about .1 to .15 over at the end which is pretty good over 26.2 miles. Have not used the Garmin in a marathon yet. My experice is that the Timex is quite accurate and I am certain that my Garmin is consistantly optimistic in mileage. Also the measurement varies more over the same loop where as the Timex measures virtually identical each time. I’m not sure if accuracy would vary from unit to unit and other people would have better or worse accuracy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this?

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No one "needs" these toys… But, the word that is pronounced "need" is often spelled "w a n t". And, having a new toy, most boys cannot resist the temptation to play with it.

Agreed, they are a luxury, but can also be very useful. When I was training for my first ultra-marathon recently, I was following a training program. When I needed to run say 20kms, I did not need to measure a route. I just went out and ran. It was great. I did random routes and still knew how far I ran. And I came back knowing just a little bit more of the neighbourhood. I have really good memories of some of those ad-hoc runs. Cheers, Russell.

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there is a yahoo group dedicated to the forerunner, google this group for the link. if I remember correctly the accuracy is sufficent enough to be affected by which arm you are wearing it on. I’ve been researching the Timex Bodylink and Forerunner GPS systems, and I am wondering if they correctly register distance traveled while running laps on a 1/4 mile track. Seems like they might possibly be confused by the relatively short circle… does anyone have any information on this?

During yesterday’s track workout I wore my Forerunner. I found it to be off anywhere from 3 to 12% too long. I wear the GPS on my right arm and I ran in the middle of lane 1 for most of the laps. When I imported the data onto the Forerunner software, the start and end of each lap never where at the same point. The end point was always at least 50 meters short of the start point of each lap. The device seems to be much more accurate on an out and back or a long loop course where there aren’t a lot of turns. Phil M. — "Pain is temporary: the success it brings can be everlasting." -fortune cookie

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Gee, that frustrating feeling that you’re running around in circles must really intensify when you actually have proof of it.

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Minneapolis Running track?

admin — Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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Hi, is there a decent outdoor running track in Minneapolis — high school, community college, park district, etc — that’s open to the public (and preferably not too crowded on weekday mornings.) The closer to Uptown, the better. Thanks. Dan

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Hi, is there a decent outdoor running track in Minneapolis — high school, community college, park district, etc — that’s open to the public (and preferably not too crowded on weekday mornings.) The closer to Uptown, the better. Thanks. Dan

What the fuck does this have to do with homosexuality?

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Hi, is there a decent outdoor running track in Minneapolis — high school, community college, park district, etc — that’s open to the public (and preferably not too crowded on weekday mornings.) The closer to Uptown, the better. Thanks. Dan What the fuck does this have to do with homosexuality?

He’s looking for a tack that is open to the public. The public means everyone, regardless of race, color, creed, or sexual orientation. tkb

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, is there a decent outdoor running track in Minneapolis — high school, community college, park district, etc — that’s open to the public (and preferably not too crowded on weekday mornings.) The closer to Uptown, the better. Thanks. Dan What the fuck does this have to do with homosexuality? He’s looking for a tack that is open to the public. The public means everyone, regardless of race, color, creed, or sexual orientation. tkb

Wale, it be true, I jus’ loves it when all thems big, sweaty mens comes runnin’ by. All a-huffin’ and a-puffin’ an’ such. But, you know, joking about off-topic drivel isn’t much better than the off-topic drivel itself, so if anybody has any advice here, I’d appreciate. it..

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, is there a decent outdoor running track in Minneapolis — high school, community college, park district, etc — that’s open to the public (and preferably not too crowded on weekday mornings.) The closer to Uptown, the better. Thanks. Dan What the fuck does this have to do with homosexuality? He’s looking for a tack that is open to the public. The public means everyone, regardless of race, color, creed, or sexual orientation. tkb Wale, it be true, I jus’ loves it when all thems big, sweaty mens comes runnin’ by. All a-huffin’ and a-puffin’ an’ such. But, you know, joking about off-topic drivel isn’t much better than the off-topic drivel itself, so if anybody has any advice here, I’d appreciate. it..

Be good to your wife.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, is there a decent outdoor running track in Minneapolis — high school, community college, park district, etc — that’s open to the public (and preferably not too crowded on weekday mornings.) The closer to Uptown, the better. Thanks. Dan What the fuck does this have to do with homosexuality? He’s looking for a tack that is open to the public. The public means everyone, regardless of race, color, creed, or sexual orientation. tkb Wale, it be true, I jus’ loves it when all thems big, sweaty mens comes runnin’ by. All a-huffin’ and a-puffin’ an’ such. But, you know, joking about off-topic drivel isn’t much better than the off-topic drivel itself, so if anybody has any advice here, I’d appreciate. it.. Be good to your wife.

Somehow I get the idea that this group particularly attracts the lycra guys who spend more money on their "gear" than they spend energy on running. The guys who run three abreast chatting with their lycra buddies about their SUVs and stock options, taking up the whole path, obliviously making everybody else go around them. Choad warriors, in other words. But hey, thanks a bunch for all the help.

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Be good to your wife. Somehow I get the idea that this group particularly attracts the lycra guys who spend more money on their "gear" than they spend energy on running. The guys who run three abreast chatting with their lycra buddies about their SUVs and stock options, taking up the whole path, obliviously making everybody else go around them. Choad warriors, in other words. But hey, thanks a bunch for all the help.

First of all you’re WRONG! Secondly, this is usenet and to participate you need a pair of balls. So grow some!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Be good to your wife. Somehow I get the idea that this group particularly attracts the lycra guys who spend more money on their "gear" than they spend energy on running. The guys who run three abreast chatting with their lycra buddies about their SUVs and stock options, taking up the whole path, obliviously making everybody else go around them. Choad warriors, in other words. But hey, thanks a bunch for all the help. First of all you’re WRONG! Secondly, this is usenet and to participate you need a pair of balls. So grow some!

Yeah, posting insults from the comfort of your living room is pretty ballsy. And it’s a great hobby, too. And totally normal. You’re right about Usenet. Some of it has changed for the better since the early to mid-90s, when it was pretty well dominated by guys like you. I had hoped maybe something like rec.running would be dominated by people who are not emotionally stunted guys (pretty much all guys, right? right) with lingering anger-management difficulties and father issues. I did a quick search on you, Bob. Here and on the Web. You have problems, and like a mystifyingly large number of people, for some reason, you want to work them out here rather than with a friend, a family member, or a qualified therapist. Beating off online, constantly, isn’t going to help you. All I am is an adult who was trying to get a little advice from some other adults. I guess I have to look elsewhere. Thanks again, and good luck.

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Sorry, this is just for Matthew Marrawoski

admin — Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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Matthew! Where were you last night? You never turned up! We were all SO looking forward to meeting you.

Next time get off your couch and come out. . OK, stupidity then, like I care. But I NEED MORE STALKERS if I’m ever to become infamous.

It is not stalking moron. It is trolling. You are just getting what you give. Can not take it? What a coward. Going to cry to mommy next? BAAAAHHHHHAAAAWAAAAA I am just trying to stoop to your level. How I wish I could believe you.

it is hard to go that low. Are your sure she is not a bloke? Oh, I’m SURE.

Sure he is hey. Glad you will finally get to lose your virginity. Actually, I was hoping you’d give me some advice on that. Where *exactly* do all my bits and bobs go? Last time ‘Cameron’ peeked at my little chum she mumbled something about it being "too bloody big"

Try opening your pants instead of taking off your hat dickhead. The reading glasses that make a millimeter look like a decimeter are a nice touch though. and that she’d need to "give birth to a 12 lb baby before that would fit in."

Bald spots look like that. Try that baldness cream. and spoil my technique in some way, and if so, what would you suggest? I could always scream "Oh my god, my balls have burst!" at an inopportune moment.

It will not work till you get some.

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Hey Matthew, we’re on line together! Fancy a chat? Roger

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Haruspex offers: Actually, I was hoping you’d give me some advice on that. Where *exactly* do all my bits and bobs go? Last time ‘Cameron’ peeked at my little chum she mumbled something about it being "too bloody big" and that she’d need to "give birth to a 12 lb baby before that would fit in." What does she mean? Oooh, and while we’re on the subject, my current femme is given to fainting with intense pleasure during her orgasm. Is this normal? Should I try and spoil my technique in some way, and if so, what would you suggest? I could always scream "Oh my god, my balls have burst!" at an inopportune moment. Would this reduce the quality of her orgasm to acceptable levels?

The bathroom humor is priceless. Holy heretic, I must be mellowing. — Doug Freese "Caveat Lector"

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Actually, I was hoping you’d give me some advice on that. Where *exactly* do all my bits and bobs go? Last time ‘Cameron’ peeked at my little chum she mumbled something about it being "too bloody big" and that she’d need to "give birth to a 12 lb baby before that would fit in." What does she mean? Oooh, and while we’re on the subject, my current femme is given to fainting with intense pleasure during her orgasm. Is this normal? Should I try and spoil my technique in some way, and if so, what would you suggest? I could always scream "Oh my god, my balls have burst!" at an inopportune moment. Would this reduce the quality of her orgasm to acceptable levels?

You could put on a wobbot mask during the act. That should take care of the intense pleasure and orgasm problems, but you’d still have to do something about the fainting. Cheers, — Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Surf was trying to get me to "bite" in an exchange of insults? Christ, I thought she was hitting on me. I still can’t read women.

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You appear to have ruffled Pete’s feathers on asc (Congrats! I’ve been trying to do that for years!) though he seems to be convinced that you are me. Frustrating, no?

Why I am you. Pete is right. I think they were a touch miffed that you didn’t ‘out’ me or provide a contact address/telephone number for Fraser. Perhaps you should reconsider this policy?

And let you off the hook. How boring. You sweat so well. Any chance you have some chums who’d like to join you on your crusade against evil?

Not evil. Stupidity. What do you do for a living?

Porn star. way of humour than the constant repetition of " BAAAHAAAAAWAAAAAAA", so put your thinking cap on before you reach for your keyboard.

I am just trying to stoop to your level. to The Southsider around 10. You’ll recognise our group ’cause one of the girls looks *exactly* like Cameron Diaz ‘cept a bit tubbier. And no, you can’t have her, there is a queue, and I’m before you.

Are your sure she is not a bloke? Glad you will finally get to lose your virginity.

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Matthew! Where were you last night? You never turned up! We were all SO looking forward to meeting you. Not evil. Stupidity.

OK, stupidity then, like I care. But I NEED MORE STALKERS if I’m ever to become infamous. I am just trying to stoop to your level.

How I wish I could believe you. Are your sure she is not a bloke?

Oh, I’m SURE. Glad you will finally get to lose your virginity.

Actually, I was hoping you’d give me some advice on that. Where *exactly* do all my bits and bobs go? Last time ‘Cameron’ peeked at my little chum she mumbled something about it being "too bloody big" and that she’d need to "give birth to a 12 lb baby before that would fit in." What does she mean? Oooh, and while we’re on the subject, my current femme is given to fainting with intense pleasure during her orgasm. Is this normal? Should I try and spoil my technique in some way, and if so, what would you suggest? I could always scream "Oh my god, my balls have burst!" at an inopportune moment. Would this reduce the quality of her orgasm to acceptable levels? Roger.

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Moi, une femme? Je suis flatt

How could this happen?

admin — Sat, 04 Oct 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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About a month ago or so I posted a message asking for help because I had to run 1.5 mile in 13 minutes at the police academy for physical test, and I was so out of shape to run even 1 mile. After running a few laps at the running track, I was feeling exhausted and out of breath without any energy to run another step. When I was at the police academy for the physical test, I was already limping because I had a swollen right ankle as a result of pushing myself to the limit during training. So, I ran 1.5 mile at the academy with a swollen right ankle, and passed to physical test, but the swollen right ankle got worse and pain got more intense. So, I put ice on my ankle and massaged every day. It took nearly a month to recover from that injury. After my right ankle healed up, I felt full of energy, and could barely wait to run again. So, I put on the shorts and shoes and wanted to see if I could manage to run again 1.5 mile after a month of inactivity because I had to get in perfect shape and prepare myself to run 5 miles before the police academy starts in January. When I started running something happened. I never got tired. I ran 1.5 mile, and was not out of breath and didn’t have the burning feeling in my lungs as a result of breathing too heavy. So, I kept running as much as I could… to see how much more of this I could take. So, I ran 3 miles and thought to myself that I was only 2 miles short of 5 miles. So, I kept running. When I was at the 4th mile, I felt the signs of fatigue, but it was not too bad. So I kept running until I ran 5 miles. I just wonder how I could run 5 miles now because I could barely run 1.5 mile before. What happened all of a sudden? On Monday I ran 5 miles, and thought to myself that I was just lucky and couldn’t do it again if I tried. So, I decided to try again on Tuesday. I ran another 5 miles. I started having a very minor pain again on my right ankle, and took Wednesday off and did nothing. On Thursday in spite of the minor pain on my right ankle, I ran 5.5 miles. I took Friday off, and tried to run again on Saturday. When I ran only half mile, I was tired, and out of breath. Not too much but I had a bit of burning feeling in my lungs. I stopped running and put my both hands at my waist and looked at the sky and said, "you gotta be kidding me!?!" in such disappointment. What happened? I showed super-major improvement and then super-major failure. I don’t understand what is happening. Yes I admit that since Thursday, I am under a lot of stress. I sleep 4 or 5 hours a day and eat once a day. Do you think it is the lack of sleep and protein intake getting to me? Has anybody experienced such major improvement and major failure? If so, how can you explain such major improvement and failure? Thanks in advance…

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I took Friday off, and tried to run again on Saturday. When I ran only half mile, I was tired, and out of breath. Not too much but I had a bit of burning feeling in my lungs. I stopped running and put my both hands at my waist and looked at the sky and said, "you gotta be kidding me!?!" in such disappointment. What happened? I showed super-major improvement and then super-major failure. I don’t understand what is happening. Yes I admit that since Thursday, I am under a lot of stress. I sleep 4 or 5 hours a day and eat once a day. Do you think it is the lack of sleep and protein intake getting to me? Has anybody experienced such major improvement and major failure? If so, how can you explain such major improvement and failure?

Simple. Your training style goes like this: run yourself into the ground, get injured, rinse and repeat. When you run yourself into the ground, you will make improvements (which may come quite rapidly if you’re a beginner), until injury prevents you from training, or overtraining kills your performance. Lack of sleep contributes to the problem, but it’s only a very small part of it. If you want to get anywhere, you need to do something a little more sophisticated than attempting to set a new personal record on each run. The problem is that you’re simply not ready to train 35 miles a week (which is what running 5 miles each day amounts to). The fact that you can run for 5 miles without stopping does not mean that you can or should maintain 35 miles a week. There are posters here who have run marathons, but you don’t see them trying to run 190 miles per week. If they were to do that, they’d get injured, or they’d be so severely overtrained that they’d get sick. I’d suggest running 5 times a week, making 4 of the runs 2-3 miles at an easy pace (you should feel like you could run the whole 5 miles if you wanted to), and do just one 5 mile run each week. As you get comfortable with this training load (you can use the 5 mile runs as a guide), *gradually* increase your milage. Cheers, — Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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I would not say that was unusual. First we all have good and bad days. In addition you body has not figured out what is expected of it. It will take a few months to get your body use to what you are expecting of it. Take it slow and easy this time. Start easy and increase slowly. — Joseph E. Meehan 26 + 6 = 1 It’s Irish Math

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – About a month ago or so I posted a message asking for help because I had to run 1.5 mile in 13 minutes at the police academy for physical test, and I was so out of shape to run even 1 mile. After running a few laps at the running track, I was feeling exhausted and out of breath without any energy to run another step. When I was at the police academy for the physical test, I was already limping because I had a swollen right ankle as a result of pushing myself to the limit during training. So, I ran 1.5 mile at the academy with a swollen right ankle, and passed to physical test, but the swollen right ankle got worse and pain got more intense. So, I put ice on my ankle and massaged every day. It took nearly a month to recover from that injury. After my right ankle healed up, I felt full of energy, and could barely wait to run again. So, I put on the shorts and shoes and wanted to see if I could manage to run again 1.5 mile after a month of inactivity because I had to get in perfect shape and prepare myself to run 5 miles before the police academy starts in January. When I started running something happened. I never got tired. I ran 1.5 mile, and was not out of breath and didn’t have the burning feeling in my lungs as a result of breathing too heavy. So, I kept running as much as I could… to see how much more of this I could take. So, I ran 3 miles and thought to myself that I was only 2 miles short of 5 miles. So, I kept running. When I was at the 4th mile, I felt the signs of fatigue, but it was not too bad. So I kept running until I ran 5 miles. I just wonder how I could run 5 miles now because I could barely run 1.5 mile before. What happened all of a sudden? On Monday I ran 5 miles, and thought to myself that I was just lucky and couldn’t do it again if I tried. So, I decided to try again on Tuesday. I ran another 5 miles. I started having a very minor pain again on my right ankle, and took Wednesday off and did nothing. On Thursday in spite of the minor pain on my right ankle, I ran 5.5 miles. I took Friday off, and tried to run again on Saturday. When I ran only half mile, I was tired, and out of breath. Not too much but I had a bit of burning feeling in my lungs. I stopped running and put my both hands at my waist and looked at the sky and said, "you gotta be kidding me!?!" in such disappointment. What happened? I showed super-major improvement and then super-major failure. I don’t understand what is happening. Yes I admit that since Thursday, I am under a lot of stress. I sleep 4 or 5 hours a day and eat once a day. Do you think it is the lack of sleep and protein intake getting to me? Has anybody experienced such major improvement and major failure? If so, how can you explain such major improvement and failure? Thanks in advance…

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I’d give you advice, but since you’re going to become a pig I’ll decline. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -About a month ago or so I posted a message asking for help because I had to run 1.5 mile in 13 minutes at the police academy for physical test, and I was so out of shape to run even 1 mile. After running a few laps at the running track, I was feeling exhausted and out of breath without any energy to run another step. When I was at the police academy for the physical test, I was already limping because I had a swollen right ankle as a result of pushing myself to the limit during training. So, I ran 1.5 mile at the academy with a swollen right ankle, and passed to physical test, but the swollen right ankle got worse and pain got more intense. So, I put ice on my ankle and massaged every day. It took nearly a month to recover from that injury. After my right ankle healed up, I felt full of energy, and could barely wait to run again. So, I put on the shorts and shoes and wanted to see if I could manage to run again 1.5 mile after a month of inactivity because I had to get in perfect shape and prepare myself to run 5 miles before the police academy starts in January. When I started running something happened. I never got tired. I ran 1.5 mile, and was not out of breath and didn’t have the burning feeling in my lungs as a result of breathing too heavy. So, I kept running as much as I could… to see how much more of this I could take. So, I ran 3 miles and thought to myself that I was only 2 miles short of 5 miles. So, I kept running. When I was at the 4th mile, I felt the signs of fatigue, but it was not too bad. So I kept running until I ran 5 miles. I just wonder how I could run 5 miles now because I could barely run 1.5 mile before. What happened all of a sudden? On Monday I ran 5 miles, and thought to myself that I was just lucky and couldn’t do it again if I tried. So, I decided to try again on Tuesday. I ran another 5 miles. I started having a very minor pain again on my right ankle, and took Wednesday off and did nothing. On Thursday in spite of the minor pain on my right ankle, I ran 5.5 miles. I took Friday off, and tried to run again on Saturday. When I ran only half mile, I was tired, and out of breath. Not too much but I had a bit of burning feeling in my lungs. I stopped running and put my both hands at my waist and looked at the sky and said, "you gotta be kidding me!?!" in such disappointment. What happened? I showed super-major improvement and then super-major failure. I don’t understand what is happening. Yes I admit that since Thursday, I am under a lot of stress. I sleep 4 or 5 hours a day and eat once a day. Do you think it is the lack of sleep and protein intake getting to me? Has anybody experienced such major improvement and major failure? If so, how can you explain such major improvement and failure? Thanks in advance…

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Why does a cop need to be physically fit? Writing parking tickets, and sleeping in your cruiser don’t require any special physical skills.

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Donovan and Joseph, thank you guys so much for your responses. Things you say make a lot of sense. I need to have a systematical training schedule rather than getting out there and running my lungs out. Recruits at the police academy begin week one with a daily 1.5 mile run which increases by 10% per week to a maximum of five miles at an 8 minute pace. I think it is better to follow the same pace by starting with 1.5 mile and increasing it by 10% per week. Thanks again

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The problem is that you’re simply not ready to train 35 miles a week (which is what running 5 miles each day amounts to). The fact that you can run for 5 miles without stopping does not mean that you can or should maintain 35 miles a week. There are posters here who have run marathons, but you don’t see them trying to run 190 miles per week.

As if support were needed, my weekly average for a maiden 3h28 marathon was around 35 miles…

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seem to have hit a wall?

admin — Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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Why thank you Donovan, that’s a right fine thing to say about me, but let me thank the real soldiers in this war on sanity. First we have Roidger Humper, delusional, psychotic, narscisstic, bipolar, bisexual, trysexual nutcase, then we have… um, come to think of it that’s all. But I couldn’t accept this years "Troll Of The Year Award" without thanking Roidger for all his/her/its continued contribution to the NG, thereby freeing up more of my time to work on more *creative* endeavors like that nuclear device in my basement…. Explosively yours, thebillrodgers – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – PS I’m pretty new to this group, although I’ve been on usenet about ten years. Anyone figure out what the deal is with all the trolls here? It’s amazing how almost every post has at least one, if not three, trolls responding to it. I think they’re all the same one. And yes, he’s very dedicated. Impressive. That kind of dedication to stupidity doesn’t appear to be repeated at any of the other groups I frequent :) He’s one of a kind.

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Oh, you meant a figurative wall. I was hoping the wall you hit was a literal one.

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The main point is to keep at it, train hard but patiently, don’t give up and you’ll get there.

Arne, (And everyone else helpful) Well, thanks for the support! I got past the "wall." To do it, I changed venues to a running track near my place that was dead flat. On that venue I was able to get up to 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking without any problem, and today I ran for 4 minutes and walked for 2 minutes for an hour. Once I do that for a couple of weeks I’ll move back to my old route, where there are some hills etc. Cheers, Geoff in Vancouver – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Everyone, For the past several months I have been working on a running program. It’s a walk / run program from this book that builds you up to being able to run for an hour: http://tinyurl.com/jsi1 First week you run 30 seconds, walk 4 mins 30 for an hour, second week run one minute, walk four minutes etc., gradually increasing the intensity. I do the workouts generally every other day, sometimes with two rest days. The book is supposed to only take 13 weeks, but I’ve found that agenda to be ridiculously difficult and by doing each week four times as opposed to just once I’ve been able to gradually increase my pace. Until now. I’m up to the point where, for an hour, I can run 2 minutes 30 seconds and walk 20 minutes 30 seconds. Although I’m pretty tired at the end, I can get through it. I’ve been doing that for about five weeks now and it’s time to dial it up a notch – 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking, for a little over an hour. However, I’ve tried three times now to get to this level and I just keep failing. My legs turn to rubber after half an hour or I’m breathing so hard I have to stop. It seems ridiculous that I can run for two-and-a-half minutes, but not three. What should I do? Run 2 minutes 45? Strikes me as hard to track. Keep going at 2 mins 30 until I’m ready to try again? PUSH myself and get to the three minute mark? Advice is appreciated – Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The main point is to keep at it, train hard but patiently, don’t give up and you’ll get there. Arne, (And everyone else helpful) Well, thanks for the support! I got past the "wall." To do it, I changed venues to a running track near my place that was dead flat. On that venue I was able to get up to 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking without any problem, and today I ran for 4 minutes and walked for 2 minutes for an hour. Once I do that for a couple of weeks I’ll move back to my old route, where there are some hills etc. Cheers, Geoff in Vancouver

Keep in mind that you can control how winded you get by how fast you run. Slow down a bit and you will be able to go much further. Doc hit on this in a previous post. He wrote, "OR he could just slow down and do it all together." The same applies to the hills. Just ease the pace a bit and you will be able to make it up hills that would have you walking otherwise. Pay attention to your body and it will tell you when to back off, or when it’s ok to pick the pace back up. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Everyone, For the past several months I have been working on a running program. It’s a walk / run program from this book that builds you up to being able to run for an hour: http://tinyurl.com/jsi1 First week you run 30 seconds, walk 4 mins 30 for an hour, second week run one minute, walk four minutes etc., gradually increasing the intensity. I do the workouts generally every other day, sometimes with two rest days. The book is supposed to only take 13 weeks, but I’ve found that agenda to be ridiculously difficult and by doing each week four times as opposed to just once I’ve been able to gradually increase my pace. Until now. I’m up to the point where, for an hour, I can run 2 minutes 30 seconds and walk 20 minutes 30 seconds. Although I’m pretty tired at the end, I can get through it. I’ve been doing that for about five weeks now and it’s time to dial it up a notch – 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking, for a little over an hour. However, I’ve tried three times now to get to this level and I just keep failing. My legs turn to rubber after half an hour or I’m breathing so hard I have to stop. It seems ridiculous that I can run for two-and-a-half minutes, but not three. What should I do? Run 2 minutes 45? Strikes me as hard to track. Keep going at 2 mins 30 until I’m ready to try again? PUSH myself and get to the three minute mark? Advice is appreciated – Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada

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Great ! Keep going – Arne – – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The main point is to keep at it, train hard but patiently, don’t give up and you’ll get there. Arne, (And everyone else helpful) Well, thanks for the support! I got past the "wall." To do it, I changed venues to a running track near my place that was dead flat. On that venue I was able to get up to 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking without any problem, and today I ran for 4 minutes and walked for 2 minutes for an hour. Once I do that for a couple of weeks I’ll move back to my old route, where there are some hills etc. Cheers, Geoff in Vancouver Hello Everyone, For the past several months I have been working on a running program. It’s a walk / run program from this book that builds you up to being able to run for an hour: http://tinyurl.com/jsi1 First week you run 30 seconds, walk 4 mins 30 for an hour, second week run one minute, walk four minutes etc., gradually increasing the intensity. I do the workouts generally every other day, sometimes with two rest days. The book is supposed to only take 13 weeks, but I’ve found that agenda to be ridiculously difficult and by doing each week four times as opposed to just once I’ve been able to gradually increase my pace. Until now. I’m up to the point where, for an hour, I can run 2 minutes 30 seconds and walk 20 minutes 30 seconds. Although I’m pretty tired at the end, I can get through it. I’ve been doing that for about five weeks now and it’s time to dial it up a notch – 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking, for a little over an hour. However, I’ve tried three times now to get to this level and I just keep failing. My legs turn to rubber after half an hour or I’m breathing so hard I have to stop. It seems ridiculous that I can run for two-and-a-half minutes, but not three. What should I do? Run 2 minutes 45? Strikes me as hard to track. Keep going at 2 mins 30 until I’m ready to try again? PUSH myself and get to the three minute mark? Advice is appreciated – Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada

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PS I’m pretty new to this group, although I’ve been on usenet about ten years. Anyone figure out what the deal is with all the trolls here? It’s amazing how almost every post has at least one, if not three, trolls responding to it.

I think they’re all the same one. And yes, he’s very dedicated. Impressive. That kind of dedication to stupidity doesn’t appear to be repeated at any of the other groups I frequent :)

He’s one of a kind. — Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Please don’t, the original thread was boring enough as it was. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Arne (and everyone else), Thanks for the great suggestions. I’ll give it a try and let you folks know what happens. Cheers, Geoff in Vancouver PS I’m pretty new to this group, although I’ve been on usenet about ten years. Anyone figure out what the deal is with all the trolls here? It’s amazing how almost every post has at least one, if not three, trolls responding to it. Impressive. That kind of dedication to stupidity doesn’t appear to be repeated at any of the other groups I frequent :) Hi Geoff First; I think its great that you have adjusted the program to fit you, and haven’t lost heart. All these "run so-and-so long in this-and-that nr of weeks" programs, inspiring as they may be, are often too general and need adjusting. As for walls; they are there for climbing over ! Sometimes that can take some time, but if it does, you’ll know you have made real progress when you get past it. Maybe you could alternate between 3 min run/ 2 min walk and 2 min run/ 3 min walk in each run, or do the 3 min run/ 2min walk for the first 20 min ? ( or for the middle third maybe ) of each run and then go back to the easier pace. If you stick with the easier pace for a few weeks more, I’m sure you’d have a better chance at managing the harder pace as well. The main point is to keep at it, train hard but patiently, don’t give up and you’ll get there. Arne Hello Everyone, For the past several months I have been working on a running program. It’s a walk / run program from this book that builds you up to being able to run for an hour: http://tinyurl.com/jsi1 First week you run 30 seconds, walk 4 mins 30 for an hour, second week run one minute, walk four minutes etc., gradually increasing the intensity. I do the workouts generally every other day, sometimes with two rest days. The book is supposed to only take 13 weeks, but I’ve found that agenda to be ridiculously difficult and by doing each week four times as opposed to just once I’ve been able to gradually increase my pace. Until now. I’m up to the point where, for an hour, I can run 2 minutes 30 seconds and walk 20 minutes 30 seconds. Although I’m pretty tired at the end, I can get through it. I’ve been doing that for about five weeks now and it’s time to dial it up a notch – 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking, for a little over an hour. However, I’ve tried three times now to get to this level and I just keep failing. My legs turn to rubber after half an hour or I’m breathing so hard I have to stop. It seems ridiculous that I can run for two-and-a-half minutes, but not three. What should I do? Run 2 minutes 45? Strikes me as hard to track. Keep going at 2 mins 30 until I’m ready to try again? PUSH myself and get to the three minute mark? Advice is appreciated – Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada

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f you clown bush

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Maybe you could alternate between 3 min run/ 2 min walk and 2 min run/ 3 min walk in each run, or do the 3 min run/ 2min walk for the first 20 min ? ( or for the middle third maybe ) of each run and then go back to the easier pace.

A great idea. If you stick with the easier pace for a few weeks more, I’m sure you’d have a better chance at managing the harder pace as well. The main point is to keep at it, train hard but patiently, don’t give up and you’ll get there.

Another possibility to consider: Your body may want an easy week to consolidate the gains, so to speak. Just walk for a week. Then, when your body is eager to run, try the 3/2 run/walk ratio again. The results may surprise you. Without this sort of periodicity in training, the harder you work, the smaller the return on your investment. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Arne Hello Everyone, For the past several months I have been working on a running program. It’s a walk / run program from this book that builds you up to being able to run for an hour: http://tinyurl.com/jsi1 First week you run 30 seconds, walk 4 mins 30 for an hour, second week run one minute, walk four minutes etc., gradually increasing the intensity. I do the workouts generally every other day, sometimes with two rest days. The book is supposed to only take 13 weeks, but I’ve found that agenda to be ridiculously difficult and by doing each week four times as opposed to just once I’ve been able to gradually increase my pace. Until now. I’m up to the point where, for an hour, I can run 2 minutes 30 seconds and walk 20 minutes 30 seconds. Although I’m pretty tired at the end, I can get through it. I’ve been doing that for about five weeks now and it’s time to dial it up a notch – 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking, for a little over an hour. However, I’ve tried three times now to get to this level and I just keep failing. My legs turn to rubber after half an hour or I’m breathing so hard I have to stop. It seems ridiculous that I can run for two-and-a-half minutes, but not three. What should I do? Run 2 minutes 45? Strikes me as hard to track. Keep going at 2 mins 30 until I’m ready to try again? PUSH myself and get to the three minute mark? Advice is appreciated – Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada

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how overweight are you? like 300 pounds? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hello Everyone, For the past several months I have been working on a running program. It’s a walk / run program from this book that builds you up to being able to run for an hour: http://tinyurl.com/jsi1 First week you run 30 seconds, walk 4 mins 30 for an hour, second week run one minute, walk four minutes etc., gradually increasing the intensity. I do the workouts generally every other day, sometimes with two rest days. The book is supposed to only take 13 weeks, but I’ve found that agenda to be ridiculously difficult and by doing each week four times as opposed to just once I’ve been able to gradually increase my pace. Until now. I’m up to the point where, for an hour, I can run 2 minutes 30 seconds and walk 20 minutes 30 seconds. Although I’m pretty tired at the end, I can get through it. I’ve been doing that for about five weeks now and it’s time to dial it up a notch – 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking, for a little over an hour. However, I’ve tried three times now to get to this level and I just keep failing. My legs turn to rubber after half an hour or I’m breathing so hard I have to stop. It seems ridiculous that I can run for two-and-a-half minutes, but not three. What should I do? Run 2 minutes 45? Strikes me as hard to track. Keep going at 2 mins 30 until I’m ready to try again? PUSH myself and get to the three minute mark? Advice is appreciated – Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada

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altertnate run/walking is a great way to start running. I suggest working up to a continous 20 minutes first, not an hour.

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Arne (and everyone else), Thanks for the great suggestions. I’ll give it a try and let you folks know what happens. Cheers, Geoff in Vancouver PS I’m pretty new to this group, although I’ve been on usenet about ten years. Anyone figure out what the deal is with all the trolls here? It’s amazing how almost every post has at least one, if not three, trolls responding to it. Impressive. That kind of dedication to stupidity doesn’t appear to be repeated at any of the other groups I frequent :) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Geoff First; I think its great that you have adjusted the program to fit you, and haven’t lost heart. All these "run so-and-so long in this-and-that nr of weeks" programs, inspiring as they may be, are often too general and need adjusting. As for walls; they are there for climbing over ! Sometimes that can take some time, but if it does, you’ll know you have made real progress when you get past it. Maybe you could alternate between 3 min run/ 2 min walk and 2 min run/ 3 min walk in each run, or do the 3 min run/ 2min walk for the first 20 min ? ( or for the middle third maybe ) of each run and then go back to the easier pace. If you stick with the easier pace for a few weeks more, I’m sure you’d have a better chance at managing the harder pace as well. The main point is to keep at it, train hard but patiently, don’t give up and you’ll get there. Arne Hello Everyone, For the past several months I have been working on a running program. It’s a walk / run program from this book that builds you up to being able to run for an hour: http://tinyurl.com/jsi1 First week you run 30 seconds, walk 4 mins 30 for an hour, second week run one minute, walk four minutes etc., gradually increasing the intensity. I do the workouts generally every other day, sometimes with two rest days. The book is supposed to only take 13 weeks, but I’ve found that agenda to be ridiculously difficult and by doing each week four times as opposed to just once I’ve been able to gradually increase my pace. Until now. I’m up to the point where, for an hour, I can run 2 minutes 30 seconds and walk 20 minutes 30 seconds. Although I’m pretty tired at the end, I can get through it. I’ve been doing that for about five weeks now and it’s time to dial it up a notch – 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking, for a little over an hour. However, I’ve tried three times now to get to this level and I just keep failing. My legs turn to rubber after half an hour or I’m breathing so hard I have to stop. It seems ridiculous that I can run for two-and-a-half minutes, but not three. What should I do? Run 2 minutes 45? Strikes me as hard to track. Keep going at 2 mins 30 until I’m ready to try again? PUSH myself and get to the three minute mark? Advice is appreciated – Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada

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OR he could just slow down and do it all together. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Geoff First; I think its great that you have adjusted the program to fit you, and haven’t lost heart. All these "run so-and-so long in this-and-that nr of weeks" programs, inspiring as they may be, are often too general and need adjusting. As for walls; they are there for climbing over ! Sometimes that can take some time, but if it does, you’ll know you have made real progress when you get past it. Maybe you could alternate between 3 min run/ 2 min walk and 2 min run/ 3 min walk in each run, or do the 3 min run/ 2min walk for the first 20 min ? ( or for the middle third maybe ) of each run and then go back to the easier pace. If you stick with the easier pace for a few weeks more, I’m sure you’d have a better chance at managing the harder pace as well. The main point is to keep at it, train hard but patiently, don’t give up and you’ll get there. Arne Hello Everyone, For the past several months I have been working on a running program. It’s a walk / run program from this book that builds you up to being able to run for an hour: http://tinyurl.com/jsi1 First week you run 30 seconds, walk 4 mins 30 for an hour, second week run one minute, walk four minutes etc., gradually increasing the intensity. I do the workouts generally every other day, sometimes with two rest days. The book is supposed to only take 13 weeks, but I’ve found that agenda to be ridiculously difficult and by doing each week four times as opposed to just once I’ve been able to gradually increase my pace. Until now. I’m up to the point where, for an hour, I can run 2 minutes 30 seconds and walk 20 minutes 30 seconds. Although I’m pretty tired at the end, I can get through it. I’ve been doing that for about five weeks now and it’s time to dial it up a notch – 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking, for a little over an hour. However, I’ve tried three times now to get to this level and I just keep failing. My legs turn to rubber after half an hour or I’m breathing so hard I have to stop. It seems ridiculous that I can run for two-and-a-half minutes, but not three. What should I do? Run 2 minutes 45? Strikes me as hard to track. Keep going at 2 mins 30 until I’m ready to try again? PUSH myself and get to the three minute mark? Advice is appreciated – Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada

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Hi Geoff First; I think its great that you have adjusted the program to fit you, and haven’t lost heart. All these "run so-and-so long in this-and-that nr of weeks" programs, inspiring as they may be, are often too general and need adjusting. As for walls; they are there for climbing over ! Sometimes that can take some time, but if it does, you’ll know you have made real progress when you get past it. Maybe you could alternate between 3 min run/ 2 min walk and 2 min run/ 3 min walk in each run, or do the 3 min run/ 2min walk for the first 20 min ? ( or for the middle third maybe ) of each run and then go back to the easier pace. If you stick with the easier pace for a few weeks more, I’m sure you’d have a better chance at managing the harder pace as well. The main point is to keep at it, train hard but patiently, don’t give up and you’ll get there. Arne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Everyone, For the past several months I have been working on a running program. It’s a walk / run program from this book that builds you up to being able to run for an hour: http://tinyurl.com/jsi1 First week you run 30 seconds, walk 4 mins 30 for an hour, second week run one minute, walk four minutes etc., gradually increasing the intensity. I do the workouts generally every other day, sometimes with two rest days. The book is supposed to only take 13 weeks, but I’ve found that agenda to be ridiculously difficult and by doing each week four times as opposed to just once I’ve been able to gradually increase my pace. Until now. I’m up to the point where, for an hour, I can run 2 minutes 30 seconds and walk 20 minutes 30 seconds. Although I’m pretty tired at the end, I can get through it. I’ve been doing that for about five weeks now and it’s time to dial it up a notch – 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking, for a little over an hour. However, I’ve tried three times now to get to this level and I just keep failing. My legs turn to rubber after half an hour or I’m breathing so hard I have to stop. It seems ridiculous that I can run for two-and-a-half minutes, but not three. What should I do? Run 2 minutes 45? Strikes me as hard to track. Keep going at 2 mins 30 until I’m ready to try again? PUSH myself and get to the three minute mark? Advice is appreciated – Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada

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Hello Everyone, For the past several months I have been working on a running program. It’s a walk / run program from this book that builds you up to being able to run for an hour: http://tinyurl.com/jsi1 First week you run 30 seconds, walk 4 mins 30 for an hour, second week run one minute, walk four minutes etc., gradually increasing the intensity. I do the workouts generally every other day, sometimes with two rest days. The book is supposed to only take 13 weeks, but I’ve found that agenda to be ridiculously difficult and by doing each week four times as opposed to just once I’ve been able to gradually increase my pace. Until now. I’m up to the point where, for an hour, I can run 2 minutes 30 seconds and walk 20 minutes 30 seconds. Although I’m pretty tired at the end, I can get through it. I’ve been doing that for about five weeks now and it’s time to dial it up a notch – 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking, for a little over an hour. However, I’ve tried three times now to get to this level and I just keep failing. My legs turn to rubber after half an hour or I’m breathing so hard I have to stop. It seems ridiculous that I can run for two-and-a-half minutes, but not three. What should I do? Run 2 minutes 45? Strikes me as hard to track. Keep going at 2 mins 30 until I’m ready to try again? PUSH myself and get to the three minute mark? Advice is appreciated – Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada

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