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I&#8217;m sorry to hear that you are having such a hard time of it Tony. After  trying to get back to work for nearly a year at half time&#44; I know just how  hard it is. I never made it even though it was an office job where I wasn&#8217;t  on my [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear that you are having such a hard time of it Tony. After  trying to get back to work for nearly a year at half time&#44; I know just how  hard it is. I never made it even though it was an office job where I wasn&#8217;t  on my feet all day. The half day just &quot;killed&quot; me mentally. I hope that you  have better success than I did in this regard.  Standing and working on concrete for some reason is the absolute worst  surface to be subjected to. The best success that I had in that regard was  to wear double soled safety work boots. It wasn&#8217;t perfect but it sure was an  improvement over casual shoes.  Good luck Tony  &#8212;  Ron P  Member of the invisible generation </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  Hi&#44; Tono&#44;   I&#8217;m glad you were assertive and called the case workers. &nbsp;Let them know   of your dilemma. &nbsp;They may be able to find you a job where you can sit   more often. &nbsp;Possibly a parking lot attendant?   I believe the only place to work before they send you to school is at the   Goodwill. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll have to ask them how they would accommodate someone in a   wheelchair?   There are no parking lots attendants here&#44; but I&#8217;m sure there is down in   Gatlinburg. &nbsp;Although I&#8217;d probably fall asleep at a job like that.   Are you standing on concrete floors most of the time? &nbsp;Is it damp in your   environment? &nbsp;These 2 factors affect my body.   Yes to the concrete&#44; no to the dampness.   Does Alleve or any ibuprofen help with the pain?   I honestly don&#8217;t recall a single time were any OTC pain meds helped me.   Even with headaches&#44; or any pain&#44; I&#8217;ve never noticed a decrease in pain.   I do have new &quot;gells&quot; in my sneakers.   Please keep us updated.   I&#8217;m planning on going to work on Monday. &nbsp;Hopefully the one case worker   will be there to do the evaluation&#44; she was sick last week but never took   the time to call me. &nbsp;I think I have a check waiting for me&#44; it should be   about $25! &nbsp;Wow! &nbsp;I can retire!   I&#8217;m waiting to see what kind of raise I get and now I&#8217;ll have to wait   another 2 weeks until that paycheck and the back pay.   Tony   &#8212;   The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
<p>&#8211;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>Tennessee Tony schreef:   I just talked to both of the case workers and things don&#8217;t look good. To   qualify for any of the free Vo-Tech or college courses I have to show   that I can work a minimum of 30 hours a week. &nbsp;But they will ask if I   can use a stool for part of the work&#44; which will without a doubt slow me   down.   Then to make things worse&#44; the courses themselves are full time&#44; they   don&#8217;t pay for part time or evening courses. </p>
<p>*%&amp;$#!!!! I&#8217;m sorry to hear of your adversity.   All I can do for now is to stay at the Goodwill and hope I can build up   more stamina. &nbsp;I could lower my med dosages and see what happens? </p>
<p>I think that might be a bad idea if the meds work well. The drawbacks  might outweigh the advantages if any.   Luckily I have an appointment with my therapist today. &nbsp;Driving at high   speeds and looking for big trees is sounding more attractive again. </p>
<p>Please take care&#44; Tony. You&#8217;re our friend&#44; we need you here. Your  daughter needs you too. I understands how you feel but there will  definitely come up a better solution for this problem.  Philip   &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>Chip schreef:   Hi Tony&#44;   Have you considered being self-employed again?   You seemed to do well when you were a handyman. And you liked fixing things.   Chip </p>
<p>Not a bad idea at all IMO.  Philip   &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  &lt;gently snipped   ::All I can do for now is to stay at the Goodwill and hope I can build up   ::more stamina. &nbsp;I could lower my med dosages and see what happens?   ::   ::Luckily I have an appointment with my therapist today. &nbsp;Driving at high   ::speeds and looking for big trees is sounding more attractive again.   Dear Tony&#44;   I&#8217;m really sorry that this isn&#8217;t working out well. No job is worth this much   pain and suffering. Hopefully your therapist will give you some good advice   and support. (((((Tony))))) </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the job I&#8217;m upset about&#44; it&#8217;s the entire program. &nbsp;I thought I  was going to get some free schooling&#44; and maybe a big change in my life.  Anyway&#44; I&#8217;m feeling a little better.  Thanks&#44;  Tony  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>  ((((((Tono))))))   Don&#8217;t be too hard on yourself. &nbsp;Things WILL work out&#8230;   smiles&#44;   Elise </p>
<p>I know things will work out. &nbsp;They will either work out well or work out  shitty&#44; or maybe somewhere in the middle?  For now I&#8217;m still going to go to work at the goodwill&#44; and keep  attempting to increase my hours. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll see what happens.  Tony  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>Hi&#44; Tono&#44;  One day at a time&#8230; &nbsp;Keep your caseworker informed of how you are feeling  and maybe they will find a different job for you. &nbsp;We never know what the  future holds&#8230;  smiles&#44;  Elise </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  ((((((Tono))))))   Don&#8217;t be too hard on yourself. &nbsp;Things WILL work out&#8230;   smiles&#44;   Elise   I know things will work out. &nbsp;They will either work out well or work out   shitty&#44; or maybe somewhere in the middle?   For now I&#8217;m still going to go to work at the goodwill&#44; and keep attempting   to increase my hours. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll see what happens.   Tony   &#8212;   The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
<p>&#8211;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; My &quot;training&quot; at the Goodwill isn&#8217;t going very well. &nbsp;Actually I&#8217;m doing   the work well (I think?) but standing all day is killing me. &nbsp;It&#8217;s been   4 weeks now and I don&#8217;t seem to have reached the peak where my pain and   fatigue are starting to go down. &nbsp;Instead my knees keep getting worse   and are now hurting more and more at home while doing regular chores.   I had been much better&#44; but now just standing can be a painful task   again. &nbsp;At work&#44; it&#8217;s not always pain&#44; but often the feeling like my   knees will just collapse&#44; and if it happens I hope the knee bends the   proper way and not backward like it feels could happen!   Oh&#44; I&#8217;ve been putting in 5 to 5.5 hours three days a week. &nbsp;Yes&#44; that&#8217;s   only 16.5 hours a week total and it&#8217;s killing me. &nbsp;I have been sleeping   8 or 9 hours before going to work&#44; yet while at work 1/2 a pot of coffee   doesn&#8217;t seem to have any effect on me anymore? &nbsp;The whole time at work I   feel like I could just curl up anywhere and sleep.   I have no idea what happens if I can&#8217;t continue&#44; but I do have calls in   to 2 different case workers so we can see what options I have.   This doesn&#8217;t even get into the one employee I have to deal with&#44; she may   drive me further out of my mind than I already am.   Tired&#44;   Tony   &#8212;   The charter is available at:http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
<p>Hi Tony:  Sooooo sorry you are having to go thru this.  Have you tried those knee brace ace-type bandages? &nbsp;Just a thot.  Is the work you&#8217;re doing boring enough to make you want to sleep or do  you think the meds. are causing that condition. &nbsp;I know that when I  worked and felt bored&#44; I sometimes would nod off (altho&#44; that would  not be a good thang for you since you&#8217;re standing while working &lt;g).  I sure hope things improve for you.  -frizz  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>  Sorry for top posting but its a brief message.   That doesn&#8217;t sound too good Tony. Can you arrange to work less hours. </p>
<p>No. &nbsp;In fact I have to get up to 30 hours a week before they will give  me the schooling.  Tony  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  My &quot;training&quot; at the Goodwill isn&#8217;t going very well. &nbsp;Actually I&#8217;m doing   the work well (I think?) but standing all day is killing me. &nbsp;It&#8217;s been   4 weeks now and I don&#8217;t seem to have reached the peak where my pain and   fatigue are starting to go down. &nbsp;Instead my knees keep getting worse   and are now hurting more and more at home while doing regular chores.   I had been much better&#44; but now just standing can be a painful task   again. &nbsp;At work&#44; it&#8217;s not always pain&#44; but often the feeling like my   knees will just collapse&#44; and if it happens I hope the knee bends the   proper way and not backward like it feels could happen!   Oh&#44; I&#8217;ve been putting in 5 to 5.5 hours three days a week. &nbsp;Yes&#44; that&#8217;s   only 16.5 hours a week total and it&#8217;s killing me. &nbsp;I have been sleeping   8 or 9 hours before going to work&#44; yet while at work 1/2 a pot of coffee   doesn&#8217;t seem to have any effect on me anymore? &nbsp;The whole time at work I   feel like I could just curl up anywhere and sleep.   I have no idea what happens if I can&#8217;t continue&#44; but I do have calls in   to 2 different case workers so we can see what options I have.   This doesn&#8217;t even get into the one employee I have to deal with&#44; she may   drive me further out of my mind than I already am.   Tired&#44;   Tony   Tony&#44;   I have a problem&#44; not standing still&#44; but walking all day long on a   job with no place to sit down. Perhaps &nbsp;you Rehab Counselor can help   you to get a stool or something. A doctor could back you up on the   pain part&#44; if you make an appointment. You may need a job that is at   least partially&#44; if not all &#8211; a sit down job. Good luck </p>
<p>Thanks. &nbsp;For now I&#8217;m going to keep trying&#44; and my case worker will ask  about getting a stool for me.  Tony  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  My &quot;training&quot; at the Goodwill isn&#8217;t going very well. &nbsp;Actually I&#8217;m doing   the work well (I think?) but standing all day is killing me. &nbsp;It&#8217;s been   4 weeks now and I don&#8217;t seem to have reached the peak where my pain and   fatigue are starting to go down. &nbsp;Instead my knees keep getting worse   and are now hurting more and more at home while doing regular chores.   I had been much better&#44; but now just standing can be a painful task   again. &nbsp;At work&#44; it&#8217;s not always pain&#44; but often the feeling like my   knees will just collapse&#44; and if it happens I hope the knee bends the   proper way and not backward like it feels could happen!   Oh&#44; I&#8217;ve been putting in 5 to 5.5 hours three days a week. &nbsp;Yes&#44; that&#8217;s   only 16.5 hours a week total and it&#8217;s killing me. &nbsp;I have been sleeping   8 or 9 hours before going to work&#44; yet while at work 1/2 a pot of coffee   doesn&#8217;t seem to have any effect on me anymore? &nbsp;The whole time at work I   feel like I could just curl up anywhere and sleep.   I have no idea what happens if I can&#8217;t continue&#44; but I do have calls in   to 2 different case workers so we can see what options I have.   This doesn&#8217;t even get into the one employee I have to deal with&#44; she may   drive me further out of my mind than I already am.   Tired&#44;   Tony   Hi Tony:   Sooooo sorry you are having to go thru this.   Have you tried those knee brace ace-type bandages? &nbsp;Just a thot. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried them before. &nbsp;The only way they seem to help me is when they  are on too tight and my lower legs go numb. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve tried them looser and  they just don&#8217;t do anything.   Is the work you&#8217;re doing boring enough to make you want to sleep or do   you think the meds. are causing that condition. </p>
<p>Both&#44; actually with a seperate diagnosis of Fibromyalgia&#44; I&#8217;ve dealt  with fatigue for over 30 years. &nbsp;Then combine it with the meds&#44; and the  boring job&#8230;..   &nbsp;I know that when I   worked and felt bored&#44; I sometimes would nod off (altho&#44; that would   not be a good thang for you since you&#8217;re standing while working &lt;g).   I sure hope things improve for you. </p>
<p>Thanks Friz  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>  Hi&#44; Tono&#44;   I&#8217;m glad you were assertive and called the case workers. &nbsp;Let them know of   your dilemma. &nbsp;They may be able to find you a job where you can sit more   often. &nbsp;Possibly a parking lot attendant? </p>
<p>I believe the only place to work before they send you to school is at  the Goodwill. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll have to ask them how they would accommodate someone  in a wheelchair?  There are no parking lots attendants here&#44; but I&#8217;m sure there is down in  Gatlinburg. &nbsp;Although I&#8217;d probably fall asleep at a job like that.   Are you standing on concrete floors most of the time? &nbsp;Is it damp in your   environment? &nbsp;These 2 factors affect my body. </p>
<p>Yes to the concrete&#44; no to the dampness.   Does Alleve or any ibuprofen help with the pain? </p>
<p>I honestly don&#8217;t recall a single time were any OTC pain meds helped me.  &nbsp; Even with headaches&#44; or any pain&#44; I&#8217;ve never noticed a decrease in pain.  I do have new &quot;gells&quot; in my sneakers.   Please keep us updated. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m planning on going to work on Monday. &nbsp;Hopefully the one case worker  will be there to do the evaluation&#44; she was sick last week but never  took the time to call me. &nbsp;I think I have a check waiting for me&#44; it  should be about $25! &nbsp;Wow! &nbsp;I can retire!  I&#8217;m waiting to see what kind of raise I get and now I&#8217;ll have to wait  another 2 weeks until that paycheck and the back pay.  Tony  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  Tennessee Tony schreef:   I just talked to both of the case workers and things don&#8217;t look good.   To qualify for any of the free Vo-Tech or college courses I have to   show that I can work a minimum of 30 hours a week. &nbsp;But they will ask   if I can use a stool for part of the work&#44; which will without a doubt   slow me down.   Then to make things worse&#44; the courses themselves are full time&#44; they   don&#8217;t pay for part time or evening courses.   *%&amp;$#!!!! I&#8217;m sorry to hear of your adversity.   All I can do for now is to stay at the Goodwill and hope I can build   up more stamina. &nbsp;I could lower my med dosages and see what happens?   I think that might be a bad idea if the meds work well. The drawbacks   might outweigh the advantages if any. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m due for a visit to the local psych ward anyway. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve never been  there. &nbsp;;-) Well maybe not. &nbsp;LOL! &nbsp;One guy at AA meetings that has been  there calls it the &quot;Nervous Hospital&quot;. &nbsp;Cracks me up every time I hear it!   Luckily I have an appointment with my therapist today. &nbsp;Driving at   high speeds and looking for big trees is sounding more attractive again.   Please take care&#44; Tony. You&#8217;re our friend&#44; we need you here. Your   daughter needs you too. I understands how you feel but there will   definitely come up a better solution for this problem. </p>
<p>I know&#44; and thanks. &nbsp;I&#8217;m better now but to give you an idea how my mind  works&#44; (scary!) I had decided I couldn&#8217;t harm myself anywhere near the  birth of my grandchild so the two wouldn&#8217;t be associated together for  years to come. &nbsp;That was then. &nbsp;Now&#44; seriously I&#8217;m OK.  Thanks again&#44;  Tony  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>  Hi&#44; Tono&#44;   One day at a time&#8230; &nbsp;Keep your caseworker informed of how you are feeling   and maybe they will find a different job for you. &nbsp;We never know what the   future holds&#8230; </p>
<p>No&#44; they only deal with the Goodwill for this program.  Tony  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>  Chip schreef:   Hi Tony&#44;   Have you considered being self-employed again?   You seemed to do well when you were a handyman. And you liked fixing   things.   Chip   Not a bad idea at all IMO. </p>
<p>I mentioned computer repair at an AA meeting and people thought it  sounded good. &nbsp;I don&#8217;t need or want full time. &nbsp;I just need something to  get me out of debt and hopefully to replace the savings I&#8217;ve spent since  living here.  Maybe combine it with some other work also&#44; like cutting grass in the  summer.  Tony  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>  Hi Tony&#44;   Have you considered being self-employed again? </p>
<p>Yes&#44; but on a much smaller scale than my old business.   You seemed to do well when you were a handyman. And you liked fixing things.   Chip </p>
<p>I was considering this before. &nbsp;More recently with free schooling I had  been considering being a computer tech and was looking at the vo-tech  course for that class. &nbsp;I already build and repair my own PC&#8217;s&#44; so maybe  I could get away with some more informal training mostly on software  issues and a few of the proper tools. &nbsp;The hardware repair is simple in  todays throw away world. &nbsp;I used to repair the electronics on circuit  boards&#44; down to the individual components&#44; but for PC&#8217;s&#44; you just throw  it away and install a new one.  I&#8217;m not sure about the handyman thing. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve done construction  work/repairs for people I know&#44; but when they referred a friend to me&#44; I  went into panic and told them that I don&#8217;t have the time right now.  Then when they called again later&#44; I was still too busy (doing nothing).  And in every town there seems to be a handyman who takes in all kinds of  junk lawn mowers&#44; fixes the better ones up and sells them cheap. &nbsp;I&#8217;m  used to those kind of repairs having 2 little garden tractors/lawn  mowers from 1970 and working on my parents lawn mowers at a very young  age. &nbsp;Last summer I used one of the 37 year old lawn mowers to cut the  grass all summer long. &nbsp;I just like to make old things work. &nbsp;I would  have to take care not turning my place into a lawn mower junk yard!  Tony  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; My &quot;training&quot; at the Goodwill isn&#8217;t going very well. &nbsp;Actually I&#8217;m doing   the work well (I think?) but standing all day is killing me. &nbsp;It&#8217;s been 4   weeks now and I don&#8217;t seem to have reached the peak where my pain and   fatigue are starting to go down. &nbsp;Instead my knees keep getting worse and   are now hurting more and more at home while doing regular chores.   I had been much better&#44; but now just standing can be a painful task again.   At work&#44; it&#8217;s not always pain&#44; but often the feeling like my knees will   just collapse&#44; and if it happens I hope the knee bends the proper way and   not backward like it feels could happen!   Oh&#44; I&#8217;ve been putting in 5 to 5.5 hours three days a week. &nbsp;Yes&#44; that&#8217;s   only 16.5 hours a week total and it&#8217;s killing me. &nbsp;I have been sleeping 8   or 9 hours before going to work&#44; yet while at work 1/2 a pot of coffee   doesn&#8217;t seem to have any effect on me anymore? &nbsp;The whole time at work I   feel like I could just curl up anywhere and sleep.   I have no idea what happens if I can&#8217;t continue&#44; but I do have calls in to   2 different case workers so we can see what options I have.   This doesn&#8217;t even get into the one employee I have to deal with&#44; she may   drive me further out of my mind than I already am.   Tired&#44;   Tony   &#8212; </p>
<p>Get orthodics for your shoes. &nbsp;They are amazing and help your feet&#44; legs&#44;  knees&#44; everything. &nbsp;If you can&#8217;t afford custom orthodics you can buy good  ones in some better sporting good stores and off the net. &nbsp;Some even go into  the oven and then mold to your feet. &nbsp;And no&#44; you don&#8217;t put your feet in the  oven. &nbsp;:-)  I had to stand all day when I worked for my dad. &nbsp;Fortunately my cousin is a  podiatrist and did mine for cost&#44; but even he says the new ones you can get  in the better sports stores are pretty good. &nbsp;My problem was aching calfs&#44;  and the orthodics just made the pain go away.  Good luck and let us know what happens.  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>((((((Tono))))))  Don&#8217;t be too hard on yourself. &nbsp;Things WILL work out&#8230;  smiles&#44;  Elise </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  My &quot;training&quot; at the Goodwill isn&#8217;t going very well. &nbsp;Actually I&#8217;m doing   the work well (I think?) but standing all day is killing me. &nbsp;It&#8217;s been 4   weeks now and I don&#8217;t seem to have reached the peak where my pain and   fatigue are starting to go down. &nbsp;Instead my knees keep getting worse and   are now hurting more and more at home while doing regular chores.   Fuck.   I just talked to both of the case workers and things don&#8217;t look good. To   qualify for any of the free Vo-Tech or college courses I have to show that   I can work a minimum of 30 hours a week. &nbsp;But they will ask if I can use a   stool for part of the work&#44; which will without a doubt slow me down.   Then to make things worse&#44; the courses themselves are full time&#44; they   don&#8217;t pay for part time or evening courses.   All I can do for now is to stay at the Goodwill and hope I can build up   more stamina. &nbsp;I could lower my med dosages and see what happens?   Luckily I have an appointment with my therapist today. &nbsp;Driving at high   speeds and looking for big trees is sounding more attractive again.   &#8212;   The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
<p>&#8211;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p> &lt;gently snipped  ::All I can do for now is to stay at the Goodwill and hope I can build up  ::more stamina. &nbsp;I could lower my med dosages and see what happens?  ::  ::Luckily I have an appointment with my therapist today. &nbsp;Driving at high  ::speeds and looking for big trees is sounding more attractive again.  Dear Tony&#44;  I&#8217;m really sorry that this isn&#8217;t working out well. No job is worth this much  pain and suffering. Hopefully your therapist will give you some good advice  and support. (((((Tony)))))  Jackie  ~*~I got in touch with my inner child and now my imaginary friend is jealous~*~  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>Tony  I also have problems standing for extended periods. It exhausts me and  makes my knees and feet hurt.  Perhaps changes in your shoes and socks might help? If you need arch  supports&#44; you can find different types of off-the-shelf orthotic  inserts at sporting goods stores that don&#8217;t cost too much. Socks have  also made a big difference for me. I use running socks with good  cushioning and made out of a fabric like coolmax that wicks away sweat  from your feet.  Another thing to try is the cushioned floor pad that a lot of checkout  clerks in grocery stores use&#44; if you are standing in one place.  Cushioning on the floor helps me a great deal.  I think a stool would be a real help even if you don&#8217;t use it all the  time&#44; just for taking periodic breaks from standing on your feet.  If they give you time for breaks&#44; another possibility is to &nbsp;find some  place where you can lie on the floor and elevate your legs and feet.  For example&#44; put your lower legs on the seat of a chair. This  circulates the blood that pools in your legs.  Finally&#44; what about trying to find a desk job? You write very well and  you obviously have some familiarity with computers. I don&#8217;t know what  you like but maybe Goodwill has need for receptionist/secretary/office  assistant? If they deal with the government&#44; I bet they have to do a  lot of paperwork.  Hope this helps.  Bob  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>  My &quot;training&quot; at the Goodwill isn&#8217;t going very well. &nbsp;Actually I&#8217;m doing   the work well (I think?) but standing all day is killing me. &nbsp;It&#8217;s been   4 weeks now and I don&#8217;t seem to have reached the peak where my pain and   fatigue are starting to go down. &nbsp;Instead my knees keep getting worse   and are now hurting more and more at home while doing regular chores. </p>
<p>Fuck.  I just talked to both of the case workers and things don&#8217;t look good.  To qualify for any of the free Vo-Tech or college courses I have to show  that I can work a minimum of 30 hours a week. &nbsp;But they will ask if I  can use a stool for part of the work&#44; which will without a doubt slow me  down.  Then to make things worse&#44; the courses themselves are full time&#44; they  don&#8217;t pay for part time or evening courses.  All I can do for now is to stay at the Goodwill and hope I can build up  more stamina. &nbsp;I could lower my med dosages and see what happens?  Luckily I have an appointment with my therapist today. &nbsp;Driving at high  speeds and looking for big trees is sounding more attractive again.  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>Hi Tony&#44;  Have you considered being self-employed again?  You seemed to do well when you were a handyman. And you liked fixing things.  Chip  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>Hi&#44; Tono&#44;  I&#8217;m glad you were assertive and called the case workers. &nbsp;Let them know of  your dilemma. &nbsp;They may be able to find you a job where you can sit more  often. &nbsp;Possibly a parking lot attendant?  Are you standing on concrete floors most of the time? &nbsp;Is it damp in your  environment? &nbsp;These 2 factors affect my body.  Does Alleve or any ibuprofen help with the pain?  Please keep us updated.  smiles&#44;  Elise </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; My &quot;training&quot; at the Goodwill isn&#8217;t going very well. &nbsp;Actually I&#8217;m doing   the work well (I think?) but standing all day is killing me. &nbsp;It&#8217;s been 4   weeks now and I don&#8217;t seem to have reached the peak where my pain and   fatigue are starting to go down. &nbsp;Instead my knees keep getting worse and   are now hurting more and more at home while doing regular chores.   I had been much better&#44; but now just standing can be a painful task again.   At work&#44; it&#8217;s not always pain&#44; but often the feeling like my knees will   just collapse&#44; and if it happens I hope the knee bends the proper way and   not backward like it feels could happen!   Oh&#44; I&#8217;ve been putting in 5 to 5.5 hours three days a week. &nbsp;Yes&#44; that&#8217;s   only 16.5 hours a week total and it&#8217;s killing me. &nbsp;I have been sleeping 8   or 9 hours before going to work&#44; yet while at work 1/2 a pot of coffee   doesn&#8217;t seem to have any effect on me anymore? &nbsp;The whole time at work I   feel like I could just curl up anywhere and sleep.   I have no idea what happens if I can&#8217;t continue&#44; but I do have calls in to   2 different case workers so we can see what options I have.   This doesn&#8217;t even get into the one employee I have to deal with&#44; she may   drive me further out of my mind than I already am.   Tired&#44;   Tony   &#8212;   The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
<p>&#8211;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; My &quot;training&quot; at the Goodwill isn&#8217;t going very well. &nbsp;Actually I&#8217;m doing   the work well (I think?) but standing all day is killing me. &nbsp;It&#8217;s been   4 weeks now and I don&#8217;t seem to have reached the peak where my pain and   fatigue are starting to go down. &nbsp;Instead my knees keep getting worse   and are now hurting more and more at home while doing regular chores.   I had been much better&#44; but now just standing can be a painful task   again. &nbsp;At work&#44; it&#8217;s not always pain&#44; but often the feeling like my   knees will just collapse&#44; and if it happens I hope the knee bends the   proper way and not backward like it feels could happen!   Oh&#44; I&#8217;ve been putting in 5 to 5.5 hours three days a week. &nbsp;Yes&#44; that&#8217;s   only 16.5 hours a week total and it&#8217;s killing me. &nbsp;I have been sleeping   8 or 9 hours before going to work&#44; yet while at work 1/2 a pot of coffee   doesn&#8217;t seem to have any effect on me anymore? &nbsp;The whole time at work I   feel like I could just curl up anywhere and sleep.   I have no idea what happens if I can&#8217;t continue&#44; but I do have calls in   to 2 different case workers so we can see what options I have.   This doesn&#8217;t even get into the one employee I have to deal with&#44; she may   drive me further out of my mind than I already am.   Tired&#44;   Tony </p>
<p>Tony&#44;  I have a problem&#44; not standing still&#44; but walking all day long on a  job with no place to sit down. Perhaps &nbsp;you Rehab Counselor can help  you to get a stool or something. A doctor could back you up on the  pain part&#44; if you make an appointment. You may need a job that is at  least partially&#44; if not all &#8211; a sit down job. Good luck  Sally  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>Sorry for top posting but its a brief message.  That doesn&#8217;t sound too good Tony. Can you arrange to work less hours.  Mary </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; My &quot;training&quot; at the Goodwill isn&#8217;t going very well. &nbsp;Actually I&#8217;m   doing the work well (I think?) but standing all day is killing me.   It&#8217;s been 4 weeks now and I don&#8217;t seem to have reached the peak   where my pain and fatigue are starting to go down. &nbsp;Instead my   knees keep getting worse and are now hurting more and more at home   while doing regular chores.   I had been much better&#44; but now just standing can be a painful task   again. &nbsp;At work&#44; it&#8217;s not always pain&#44; but often the feeling like my   knees will just collapse&#44; and if it happens I hope the knee bends   the proper way and not backward like it feels could happen!   Oh&#44; I&#8217;ve been putting in 5 to 5.5 hours three days a week. &nbsp;Yes&#44;   that&#8217;s only 16.5 hours a week total and it&#8217;s killing me. &nbsp;I have   been sleeping 8 or 9 hours before going to work&#44; yet while at work   1/2 a pot of coffee doesn&#8217;t seem to have any effect on me anymore?   The whole time at work I feel like I could just curl up anywhere   and sleep.   I have no idea what happens if I can&#8217;t continue&#44; but I do have   calls in to 2 different case workers so we can see what options I   have.   This doesn&#8217;t even get into the one employee I have to deal with&#44;   she may drive me further out of my mind than I already am.   Tired&#44;   Tony </p>
<p>&#8211;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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<p>My &quot;training&quot; at the Goodwill isn&#8217;t going very well. &nbsp;Actually I&#8217;m doing  the work well (I think?) but standing all day is killing me. &nbsp;It&#8217;s been  4 weeks now and I don&#8217;t seem to have reached the peak where my pain and  fatigue are starting to go down. &nbsp;Instead my knees keep getting worse  and are now hurting more and more at home while doing regular chores.  I had been much better&#44; but now just standing can be a painful task  again. &nbsp;At work&#44; it&#8217;s not always pain&#44; but often the feeling like my  knees will just collapse&#44; and if it happens I hope the knee bends the  proper way and not backward like it feels could happen!  Oh&#44; I&#8217;ve been putting in 5 to 5.5 hours three days a week. &nbsp;Yes&#44; that&#8217;s  only 16.5 hours a week total and it&#8217;s killing me. &nbsp;I have been sleeping  8 or 9 hours before going to work&#44; yet while at work 1/2 a pot of coffee  doesn&#8217;t seem to have any effect on me anymore? &nbsp;The whole time at work I  feel like I could just curl up anywhere and sleep.  I have no idea what happens if I can&#8217;t continue&#44; but I do have calls in  to 2 different case workers so we can see what options I have.  This doesn&#8217;t even get into the one employee I have to deal with&#44; she may  drive me further out of my mind than I already am.  Tired&#44;  Tony  &#8212;  The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm </p>
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		<title>First 12K Race</title>
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Yesterdat I ran my first 12K race and it was an amazin experience. Sure it  wasn&#8217;t a good time&#44; but I was able to finish it.  The thing is&#44; my feet got to hot and by the end of the race I had &#34;blisters&#34;  on my feet&#44; this is not the first [...]]]></description>
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<p>Yesterdat I ran my first 12K race and it was an amazin experience. Sure it  wasn&#8217;t a good time&#44; but I was able to finish it.  The thing is&#44; my feet got to hot and by the end of the race I had &quot;blisters&quot;  on my feet&#44; this is not the first time I got them after I ran. I was  wondering if somebody can help me out what can I do&#44; I&#8217;ve tried different  shoes and it keeps hapening. Is because of the shoes the socks?  Thanks for your help  doju </p>
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<p> The thing is&#44; my feet got to hot and by the end of the race I had  &quot;blisters&quot;   on my feet&#44; this is not the first time I got them after I ran. I was   wondering if somebody can help me out what can I do&#44; I&#8217;ve tried different   shoes and it keeps hapening. Is because of the shoes the socks? </p>
<p>Well&#44; what kind of shoes and socks are you wearing? &nbsp;It&#8217;s hard to tell if  they are the problem without having more information. &nbsp;However&#44; based on  what you wrote&#44; I&#8217;m guessing that you are wearing cotton socks. &nbsp;Cotton  socks are a bad thing &#8211; get some running socks made from CoolMax. &nbsp;They sell  them almost every where (even Wal-Mart)&#44; so you shouldn&#8217;t have trouble  finding them.  marisa </p>
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		<title>HELP ME!!!</title>
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  It gets a lot more expensive if the family does it and is really into   it&#44; believe me. &#160;The $100 for the half marathon the other day&#44; $50 for   most races&#44; shoes&#44; $20 a pop for USATF memberships (the kids have to   have them if they want [...]]]></description>
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<p>  It gets a lot more expensive if the family does it and is really into   it&#44; believe me. &nbsp;The $100 for the half marathon the other day&#44; $50 for   most races&#44; shoes&#44; $20 a pop for USATF memberships (the kids have to   have them if they want to compete in USATF track meets and CC meets) </p>
<p>My last race in July was $150 plus some extra post race meals meals  which took it optionally over $200. The add $600 for two rooms for  three nights and this is only one race. My choice for all this a bit  more than $320 a year.   Hey&#44; its cheaper than rehab and counseling. </p>
<p>Worth every cent!!!!!  &#8212;  Doug Freese </p>
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<p>   Oh&#44; baloney. &nbsp;Nobody&#8217;s forcing people to spend megabucks on   running stuff&#44; and I don&#8217;t think most runners actually do.   Lesee&#8230; I own shoes&#44; good running socks&#44; a heart rate monitor&#44;   a jacket&#44; some shirts and shorts&#44; tights&#44; and windpants. &nbsp;The HRM is   admittedly excessive. &nbsp;Of these&#44; I perhaps buy a shirt and shorts   or two &nbsp;a year&#44; four pairs of shoes&#44; and the occasional   thing of bodyglide. &nbsp;That&#8217;s about $320/year&#44; somewhere around $1/hour. </p>
<p>It gets a lot more expensive if the family does it and is really into  it&#44; believe me. &nbsp;The $100 for the half marathon the other day&#44; $50 for  most races&#44; shoes&#44; $20 a pop for USATF memberships (the kids have to  have them if they want to compete in USATF track meets and CC meets)  Hey&#44; its cheaper than rehab and counseling.   Most of that is in the shoes&#44; and I consider that an unavoidable   expense.   If people like spending money on toys&#44; who am I to stop them?   &nbsp; -Dave   &#8212;   work: dga &#8211; at &#8211; lcs.mit.edu &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; me: &nbsp;angio &#8211; at &#8211;  pobox.com   &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; MIT Laboratory for Computer Science </p>
<p>http://www.angio.net/   &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (note that my reply-to address is vaguely despammed&#8230;)   &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; bulk emailers: &nbsp;I do not accept unsolicited email. &nbsp;Do not mail </p>
<p>me. </p>
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<p>  Who&#8217;s stealing from who?   Running&#8217;s attraction is largely that it&#8217;s free&#44; anyone can do it&#44; and we   only compete against ourselves.   Unless you go to pccoach.com where they will try to convince you to pay up   to $300 for their training programme and another $300 for a watch that gives   your heart rate. </p>
<p>&nbsp; So &#8230; don&#8217;t buy their software or their watch. &nbsp;What&#8217;s the problem?  It&#8217;s called voting with your wallet. &nbsp;If their stuff is useless&#44;  then they&#8217;ll go out of business eventually. &nbsp;Even with a fool born  every minute&#44; eventually people will clue in.   Lots of cash when training schedules and advice are free all over the net.   People on this newsgroup willingly give their time and experience for free. </p>
<p>So why bother buying a book? &nbsp;Why read Daniels&#44; Coe&#44; or Lydiard?  &nbsp; &nbsp; a) &nbsp;Because they know what they&#8217;re talking about  &nbsp; &nbsp; b) &nbsp;Because the information is concentrated in one spot where it&#8217;s  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; easily accessible and well presented  &nbsp; &nbsp; c) &nbsp;Because you don&#8217;t have to filter through the horrible advice  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; and troll-ridden garbage on r.r.  &nbsp; &nbsp; d) &nbsp;All of the above and more   Why support pccoach.com demanding money for old rope? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. &nbsp;Why not ask Gimpy why he&#8217;s so desperate to steal it?  Perhaps it offers something he finds valuable.   Heroes like Gianpy are reclaiming running from the capitalists.   Forward! </p>
<p>Oh&#44; baloney. &nbsp;Nobody&#8217;s forcing people to spend megabucks on  running stuff&#44; and I don&#8217;t think most runners actually do.  Lesee&#8230; I own shoes&#44; good running socks&#44; a heart rate monitor&#44;  a jacket&#44; some shirts and shorts&#44; tights&#44; and windpants. &nbsp;The HRM is  admittedly excessive. &nbsp;Of these&#44; I perhaps buy a shirt and shorts  or two &nbsp;a year&#44; four pairs of shoes&#44; and the occasional  thing of bodyglide. &nbsp;That&#8217;s about $320/year&#44; somewhere around $1/hour.  Most of that is in the shoes&#44; and I consider that an unavoidable  expense.  If people like spending money on toys&#44; who am I to stop them?  &nbsp; -Dave  &#8212;  work: dga &#8211; at &#8211; lcs.mit.edu &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; me: &nbsp;angio &#8211; at &#8211; pobox.com  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; MIT Laboratory for Computer Science &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; http://www.angio.net/  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (note that my reply-to address is vaguely despammed&#8230;)  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; bulk emailers: &nbsp;I do not accept unsolicited email. &nbsp;Do not mail me. </p>
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<p>Please&#44; help me!!!  I lost my serial number of my Pc Coach Elite so I can&#8217;t install it.  Please&#44; give me a serial number to install the program.  Thank you very much  Gianpy &nbsp;(Milan) &nbsp;ITALY </p>
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<p>  Please&#44; help me!!!   I lost my serial number of my Pc Coach Elite so I can&#8217;t install it. </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;I pirated a copy of this&#44; and it won&#8217;t run properly. <img src='http://runrunaway.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> &quot;   Please&#44; give me a serial number to install the program. </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;Please&#44; help me steal this valuable software so I don&#8217;t have  &nbsp; &nbsp; to give any money to the authors.&quot;  Support &#8211; at &#8211; &nbsp;pccoach.com could probably help you if you  actually owned the software&#8230;  &nbsp; -Dave  &#8212;  work: dga &#8211; at &#8211; lcs.mit.edu &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; me: &nbsp;angio &#8211; at &#8211; pobox.com  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; MIT Laboratory for Computer Science &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; http://www.angio.net/  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (note that my reply-to address is vaguely despammed&#8230;)  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; bulk emailers: &nbsp;I do not accept unsolicited email. &nbsp;Do not mail me. </p>
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<p>Who&#8217;s stealing from who?  Running&#8217;s attraction is largely that it&#8217;s free&#44; anyone can do it&#44; and we  only compete against ourselves.  Unless you go to pccoach.com where they will try to convince you to pay up  to $300 for their training programme and another $300 for a watch that gives  your heart rate.  Lots of cash when training schedules and advice are free all over the net.  People on this newsgroup willingly give their time and experience for free.  Why support pccoach.com demanding money for old rope?  Heroes like Gianpy are reclaiming running from the capitalists.  Forward! </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;   Please&#44; help me!!!    I lost my serial number of my Pc Coach Elite so I can&#8217;t install it.   &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;I pirated a copy of this&#44; and it won&#8217;t run properly. <img src='http://runrunaway.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> &quot;    Please&#44; give me a serial number to install the program.   &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;Please&#44; help me steal this valuable software so I don&#8217;t have   &nbsp; &nbsp; to give any money to the authors.&quot;   Support &#8211; at &#8211; &nbsp;pccoach.com could probably help you if you   actually owned the software&#8230;   &nbsp; -Dave   &#8212;   work: dga &#8211; at &#8211; lcs.mit.edu &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; me: &nbsp;angio &#8211; at &#8211; pobox.com   &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; MIT Laboratory for Computer Science &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; http://www.angio.net/   &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (note that my reply-to address is vaguely despammed&#8230;)   &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; bulk emailers: &nbsp;I do not accept unsolicited email. &nbsp;Do not mail me. </p>
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		<title>Where to get Coolmax padded running socks</title>
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http://www.sportsbasement.com/  Free Shipping!  };o) 
 &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; Where can I get a great price on Coolmax padded running socks (Thorlo and   the like)?  

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<p>http://www.sportsbasement.com/  Free Shipping!  };o) </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; Where can I get a great price on Coolmax padded running socks (Thorlo and   the like)?  </p>
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<p>try wright socks  plodzilla  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; Where can I get a great price on Coolmax padded running socks (Thorlo and   the like)?   Brian   &#8212;   &#8212;   If you want to email us&#44; you must remove the upper case wording between the   attempt to conquer the unwanted SPAM.   Never kiss a girl whose brothers have knife scars!   Don&#8217;t poke beans up your nose!  </p>
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<p>Brian &#8211;  I always get mine at Road Runner Sports &#8212; if you sign up for their  emails&#44; you&#8217;ll get a coupon in no time! </p>
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<p>Ever try &quot;Wright socks&quot; Nicely padded&#44; double layers? Seem to be a  good one.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -Brian &#8211;  I always get mine at Road Runner Sports &#8212; if you sign up for their  emails&#44; you&#8217;ll get a coupon in no time!  </p>
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<p>Where can I get a great price on Coolmax padded running socks (Thorlo and  the like)?  Brian  &#8212;  &#8212;  If you want to email us&#44; you must remove the upper case wording between the  attempt to conquer the unwanted SPAM.  Never kiss a girl whose brothers have knife scars!  Don&#8217;t poke beans up your nose! </p>
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		<title>Where to get Coolmax padded running socks</title>
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<p>Where can I get a great price on Coolmax padded running socks (Thorlo and  the like)?  Brian  &#8212;  &#8212;  If you want to email us&#44; you must remove the upper case wording between the  attempt to conquer the unwanted SPAM.  Never kiss a girl whose brothers have knife scars!  Don&#8217;t poke beans up your nose! </p>
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<p>http://www.sportsbasement.com/  Free Shipping!  };o) </p>
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<p>try wright socks  plodzilla  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; Where can I get a great price on Coolmax padded running socks (Thorlo and   the like)?   Brian   &#8212;   &#8212;   If you want to email us&#44; you must remove the upper case wording between the   attempt to conquer the unwanted SPAM.   Never kiss a girl whose brothers have knife scars!   Don&#8217;t poke beans up your nose!  </p>
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<p>Brian &#8211;  I always get mine at Road Runner Sports &#8212; if you sign up for their  emails&#44; you&#8217;ll get a coupon in no time! </p>
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<p>Ever try &quot;Wright socks&quot; Nicely padded&#44; double layers? Seem to be a  good one.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -Brian &#8211;  I always get mine at Road Runner Sports &#8212; if you sign up for their  emails&#44; you&#8217;ll get a coupon in no time!  </p>
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		<title>Arch Pain?</title>
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Hi David&#44;  You have some great links on your site. &#160;I think it&#8217;s pretty great  that you smoked for 17 years and now your running. &#160;It jsut goes to  show you how resilient the human body can be.  Kenisan  p.s. &#160;By the way&#44; the socks really do work.  &#8211; [...]]]></description>
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<p>Hi David&#44;  You have some great links on your site. &nbsp;I think it&#8217;s pretty great  that you smoked for 17 years and now your running. &nbsp;It jsut goes to  show you how resilient the human body can be.  Kenisan  p.s. &nbsp;By the way&#44; the socks really do work.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; ummm&#8230; this is really pushing it&#44; lol. Something tells me   that 5-toes socks aren&#8217;t going to help an arch problem&#44; but   you already knew that&#44; right? <img src='http://runrunaway.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />    as polite as it is&#44; it&#8217;s still spam.   &#8212;   David (in Hamilton&#44; Ont)   &quot;You can&#8217;t burn out if you&#8217;ve never caught fire.&quot;   http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html   &#8211;    Hi Troy&#44;    I am not sure if this will help or not but maybe you could try out a    pair of our 5 toe running socks www.injinji.com &nbsp;By having the toes    seperated and not smashed together inside a tube sock the toes are    able to articulate inside the shoe. This allows your foot to work more    naturally and it also eliminates blistering. &nbsp;We have been seeing alot    of great success with athletes and their foot problems. &nbsp;Susan Olsen    wears them exclusively&#44; she&#8217;s a world champion ultra marathoner.    Susan used to finish 24 hour and 48 hour races with boody feet from    the blisters between her toes.    Good luck&#44;    Kenisan     It&#8217;s worse in the morning&#44; when I wake up&#44; and gets better&#44; after I put     some weight on it. &nbsp;I thought maybe it was plantar facitis&#44; but it     doesn&#8217;t extend to the heel. &nbsp;I won&#8217;t have it for a few days and then the     pain comes back. &nbsp;During one run&#44; the pain was on the outside of my     foot. &nbsp;Could my arch be dropping? &nbsp;I have high arches and I naturally     suppinate&#44; but my shoes(Brooks Hyperion) correct my footstrike.     I also have the urge to crack my foot. &nbsp;This actually brings some relief     to the arch pain. &nbsp;I haven&#8217;t done any preventive measures yet.     Thanks&#44;     Troy  </p>
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<p>   Hi David&#44;   You have some great links on your site. &nbsp;I think it&#8217;s pretty great   that you smoked for 17 years and now your running. &nbsp;It jsut goes to   show you how resilient the human body can be. </p>
<p>Thanks&#44; I appreciate it.   Kenisan   p.s. &nbsp;By the way&#44; the socks really do work. </p>
<p>&#8230;for arch pain? Got any sort of research&#44; or hell&#44; even some  anecdotal evidence that wearing socks with separate toes will  prevent this? C&#8217;mon&#8230; I&#8217;m sure they are comfy&#44; and I&#8217;m not  saying they suck or something&#44; but when I say you trying to sell  them to someone with arch pain&#44; it just seemed a little silly.  Maybe it&#8217;s just me.  &#8212;  David (in Hamilton&#44; Ont)  &quot;You can&#8217;t burn out if you&#8217;ve never caught fire.&quot;  http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html  &#8211; </p>
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<p>ummm&#8230; this is really pushing it&#44; lol. Something tells me  that 5-toes socks aren&#8217;t going to help an arch problem&#44; but  you already knew that&#44; right? <img src='http://runrunaway.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   as polite as it is&#44; it&#8217;s still spam.  &#8212;  David (in Hamilton&#44; Ont)  &quot;You can&#8217;t burn out if you&#8217;ve never caught fire.&quot;  http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html  &#8211; </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; Hi Troy&#44;   I am not sure if this will help or not but maybe you could try out a   pair of our 5 toe running socks www.injinji.com &nbsp;By having the toes   seperated and not smashed together inside a tube sock the toes are   able to articulate inside the shoe. This allows your foot to work more   naturally and it also eliminates blistering. &nbsp;We have been seeing alot   of great success with athletes and their foot problems. &nbsp;Susan Olsen   wears them exclusively&#44; she&#8217;s a world champion ultra marathoner.   Susan used to finish 24 hour and 48 hour races with boody feet from   the blisters between her toes.   Good luck&#44;   Kenisan </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  It&#8217;s worse in the morning&#44; when I wake up&#44; and gets better&#44; after I put    some weight on it. &nbsp;I thought maybe it was plantar facitis&#44; but it    doesn&#8217;t extend to the heel. &nbsp;I won&#8217;t have it for a few days and then the    pain comes back. &nbsp;During one run&#44; the pain was on the outside of my    foot. &nbsp;Could my arch be dropping? &nbsp;I have high arches and I naturally    suppinate&#44; but my shoes(Brooks Hyperion) correct my footstrike.    I also have the urge to crack my foot. &nbsp;This actually brings some relief    to the arch pain. &nbsp;I haven&#8217;t done any preventive measures yet.    Thanks&#44;    Troy  </p>
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<p>Hi Troy&#44;  I am not sure if this will help or not but maybe you could try out a  pair of our 5 toe running socks www.injinji.com &nbsp;By having the toes  seperated and not smashed together inside a tube sock the toes are  able to articulate inside the shoe. This allows your foot to work more  naturally and it also eliminates blistering. &nbsp;We have been seeing alot  of great success with athletes and their foot problems. &nbsp;Susan Olsen  wears them exclusively&#44; she&#8217;s a world champion ultra marathoner.  Susan used to finish 24 hour and 48 hour races with boody feet from  the blisters between her toes.  Good luck&#44;  Kenisan  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  It&#8217;s worse in the morning&#44; when I wake up&#44; and gets better&#44; after I put   some weight on it. &nbsp;I thought maybe it was plantar facitis&#44; but it   doesn&#8217;t extend to the heel. &nbsp;I won&#8217;t have it for a few days and then the   pain comes back. &nbsp;During one run&#44; the pain was on the outside of my   foot. &nbsp;Could my arch be dropping? &nbsp;I have high arches and I naturally   suppinate&#44; but my shoes(Brooks Hyperion) correct my footstrike. &nbsp;   I also have the urge to crack my foot. &nbsp;This actually brings some relief   to the arch pain. &nbsp;I haven&#8217;t done any preventive measures yet.   Thanks&#44;   Troy  </p>
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<p>The way I understand it the plantar fascia run from the back of the toes to  the heel and you could have pain in any part. &nbsp;I&#8217;m recovering from heel pain  now&#44; but I remember having to deal with a minor case in High School track  (35 yrs ago!) in the middle part. &nbsp;High arches are supposed to predispose  you for it. </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; It&#8217;s worse in the morning&#44; when I wake up&#44; and gets better&#44; after I put   some weight on it. &nbsp;I thought maybe it was plantar facitis&#44; but it   doesn&#8217;t extend to the heel. &nbsp;I won&#8217;t have it for a few days and then the   pain comes back. &nbsp;During one run&#44; the pain was on the outside of my   foot. &nbsp;Could my arch be dropping? &nbsp;I have high arches and I naturally   suppinate&#44; but my shoes(Brooks Hyperion) correct my footstrike.   I also have the urge to crack my foot. &nbsp;This actually brings some relief   to the arch pain. &nbsp;I haven&#8217;t done any preventive measures yet.   Thanks&#44;   Troy  </p>
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<p> I&#8217;m curious. Why do you need the shoe to   CORRECT your foot strike?  Since you say you are an underpronator   (suppinator)&#44; what&#8217;s to correct? </p>
<p>The Brooks Hyperion is classified as a cushioning shoe. &nbsp;It has a  slightly curved last&#44; which would bring my foot inward a little. &nbsp;I  realize you know this! &nbsp;The shoe does have a defined arch support. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll  try running with a flat insole and see if it helps. &nbsp;I can see what you  saying. &nbsp;I might have the pain&#44; because my arch isn&#8217;t flexing. &nbsp;If I  were running barefoot&#44; I wouldn&#8217;t have any arch support&#44; so it may be  natural for the arch to flex. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll give it a try. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve also noticed  another thing. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve worn a few stability shoes and they all felt  horrible. &nbsp;It felt like my feet were being pulled to the outside. &nbsp;  Thanks&#44;  Troy &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  The  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; high-arch&#44; underpronate condition is a fairly   common duo&#44; and generally needs no motion   control or stabilizing.  Here&#8217;s a thought. If the Hyperion has a well   defined arch support built into the insole (I&#8217;ve   used Brooks b4 and think yes)&#44; then the   control (of the shoe) and the intrusion of the   arch may be the culprit.  As a test try removing the original insole and   replacing it with a FLAT insole. Try that for a   few miles/days (or&#8230;?) and see if there&#8217;s any   improvement. If not&#44; well no harm done&#44; since   you already have a problem. If things get   better&#44; then keep on truckin&#8217;.  I also have a high arch and underpronate   (bowed legs&#44; to boot). Even though high   arches are said to be &quot;rigid&quot;&#44; implying BAD&#44;   they still need to flex during weight bearing.   Arch support (if excessive) can actually be   the source of pain (certainly for me&#44; before I   figured it out) &#8211; opposite of the supposed   purpose of preventing pain. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Doctor (although I played one under the porch); just my  personal experience and observations.  Denny &nbsp;  http://community.webtv.net/tmacrun/AppalachianTrail </p>
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<p>It&#8217;s worse in the morning&#44; when I wake up&#44; and gets better&#44; after I put  some weight on it. &nbsp;I thought maybe it was plantar facitis&#44; but it  doesn&#8217;t extend to the heel. &nbsp;I won&#8217;t have it for a few days and then the  pain comes back. &nbsp;During one run&#44; the pain was on the outside of my  foot. &nbsp;Could my arch be dropping? &nbsp;I have high arches and I naturally  suppinate&#44; but my shoes(Brooks Hyperion) correct my footstrike. &nbsp;  I also have the urge to crack my foot. &nbsp;This actually brings some relief  to the arch pain. &nbsp;I haven&#8217;t done any preventive measures yet.  Thanks&#44;  Troy </p>
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<p> It&#8217;s worse in the morning&#44; when I wake up&#44; and gets better&#44; after I put  some weight on it. &nbsp;I thought maybe it was plantar facitis&#44; but it  doesn&#8217;t extend to the heel. &nbsp;I won&#8217;t have it for a few days and then the  pain comes back. &nbsp;During one run&#44; the pain was on the outside of my  foot. &nbsp;Could my arch be dropping? &nbsp;I have high arches and I naturally  suppinate&#44; but my shoes(Brooks Hyperion) correct my footstrike. &nbsp; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious. Why do you need the shoe to CORRECT your foot strike?  Since you say you are an underpronator (suppinator)&#44; what&#8217;s to  correct? The high-arch&#44; underpronate condition is a fairly common duo&#44;  and generally needs no motion control or stabilizing.  Here&#8217;s a thought. If the Hyperion has a well defined arch support  built into the insole (I&#8217;ve used Brooks b4 and think yes)&#44; then the  control (of the shoe) and the intrusion of the arch may be the  culprit.  As a test try removing the original insole and replacing it with a  FLAT insole. Try that for a few miles/days (or&#8230;?) and see if there&#8217;s  any improvement. If not&#44; well no harm done&#44; since you already have a  problem. If things get better&#44; then keep on truckin&#8217;.  I also have a high arch and underpronate (bowed legs&#44; to boot). Even  though high arches are said to be &quot;rigid&quot;&#44; implying BAD&#44; they still  need to flex during weight bearing. Arch support (if excessive) can  actually be the source of pain (certainly for me&#44; before I figured it  out) &#8211; opposite of the supposed purpose of preventing pain.  I also have the urge to crack my foot. &nbsp;This actually brings some relief  to the arch pain. &nbsp;I haven&#8217;t done any preventive measures yet.  Thanks&#44;  Troy </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Doctor (although I played one under the porch); just my  personal experience and observations.  Denny </p>
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		<title>Diabetic Alert: Socks</title>
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 &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -I have a pair of socks from Tilley called walking socks that are wool and  padded also. They are not cheap&#44; $22 Canadian&#44; but are guaranteed for 3  years. They are very comfortable. Have a look at www.tilley.com.   In the Volume 14 [...]]]></description>
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<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -I have a pair of socks from Tilley called walking socks that are wool and  padded also. They are not cheap&#44; $22 Canadian&#44; but are guaranteed for 3  years. They are very comfortable. Have a look at www.tilley.com.   In the Volume 14 Number 2 Spring 2001 issue of Diabetes Spectrum&#44;   there&#8217;s an article on socks for diabetics. It&#8217;s on Page 59&#44; and it&#8217;s   titled Clinical Decision Making: Sockwear Recommendations for People   with Diabetes.   Diabetics&quot;with &#8216;normal&#8217; feet should be able to wear &quot;whatever socks   they find to be comfortable.&quot; (p. 61).   Natural fibers are able to absorb moisture from the skin but will hold   the moisture. Acrylics&#44; though&#44; are able to wick moisture away from   the skin.   For diabetics with foot problems&#44; densely padded socks are   recommended. They don&#8217;t actually come out in the article and say &quot;Go   buy Thorlos&quot; but gee&#44; Thorlos are the only socks mentioned by name in   the article and the only ones described in the article that meet their   criteria.   I suspect that&#44; while diabetic athletes without foot problems are not   advised to get densely padded socks of acrylic&#44; it&#8217;s a good idea.   I will point out that&#44; while Thorlos will reduce the chances of   blistering&#44; it is possible to get a blister with them. I&#8217;ve got a big   honking one on my heel that seems to have come from not tying my shoes   properly&#44; allowing my heel to slide up and down in the shoe for 22   miles. My bad.   Rob </p>
<p>Thank you all&#44; I live in N.Ireland and it&#8217;s not so easy to go out and  purchase these things when I don&#8217;t know where to find them but I did get  an appointment with the hospital&#44; ortho?????? (Spelling is not my  strong point???) for July  &#8212;  mark brown </p>
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<p>Check out http://www.thorlo.com/ . &nbsp;They have a UK site.  &#8212;  Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! == http://www.cauce.org/ </p>
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<p> &lt;snip   What the heck do people like Michael Jordan wear for socks? Anybody   know?   Carol </p>
<p>Carol&#44;  Interesting. I did a quick search and came up empty. I bet they have the  socks custom made for them. With the bucks they make&#44; small change.  &#8212;  Bob  Visit my information &amp; link page at  http://twilight.webbernet.net/~gooteebob/index_html.htm  news.newusers.questions Moderation Team Worker </p>
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<p>Anything he wants.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  What the heck do people like Michael Jordan wear for socks? Anybody   know?  </p>
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<p> Anything he wants.   What the heck do people like Michael Jordan wear for socks? Anybody   know? </p>
<p>It is not &nbsp;fair and I can&#8217;t even get a pair of shoes for my deformed  feet -)  &#8212;  mark brown </p>
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<p>  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  &nbsp;I also have some really    clownish socks for edema that are WAY oversized. &nbsp;But sometimes that&#8217;s  all I    can get my feet into. &nbsp;It was a relief to finally find those because my  feet    tend to get cold. &nbsp;And when they were really swollen I had to keep  taking of    my socks at frequent intervals because they were cutting into my feet  and    legs.   The best socks my husband found are socks for amputees. They are tube   socks and unshaped. They are very stretchy&#44; long&#44; and come in white   which is the best color to prevent infection. They come ONE to a package   so you have to buy &nbsp;TWO packages for a pair but he loves them&#44;&#8230; even   more than his Thorlos. </p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; &nbsp;I have never seen those. &nbsp;Will have to look for them.   DH needs socks that go over the knee to be above the top of his braces.   Thorlo makes a great over the knee sock in large size (16 or   somoethhing) but only sells it in Europe and you have to order 60 dozen   sure would like to find someone who lives in Europe who can buy us a   smaller quantity.   What the heck do people like Michael Jordan wear for socks? Anybody   know? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know&#44; but I was once shown a really huge basketball shoe at  Nordstroms. &nbsp;This was way back when they still wore those high top canvas  ones. &nbsp;The salesman sort of reeled out this shoe and it just kept coming.  Can&#8217;t remember what size he said it was&#44; but it was a big one! &nbsp;It was a  special order for one of the Sonics.  &#8212;  Type 2  http://www.redshift.com/~juliebove/ </p>
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<p>   It is not &nbsp;fair and I can&#8217;t even get a pair of shoes for my deformed   feet -) </p>
<p>I know that feeling! &nbsp;If mine get any wider or thicker I shall have to  resort to buying those custom ones made specifically for your feet. &nbsp;Not  that I can afford them mind you. &nbsp;My Mother said jokingly that I should just  wear the shoe boxes. &nbsp;And actually&#44; those might fit!  &#8212;  Type 2  http://www.redshift.com/~juliebove/ </p>
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<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  Anything he wants.    What the heck do people like Michael Jordan wear for socks? Anybody    know?   It is not &nbsp;fair and I can&#8217;t even get a pair of shoes for my deformed   feet -)   &#8212;   mark brown </p>
<p>Yes you can. Find an orthotist in your area.An orthoist can have them  specially made. &nbsp;You may even be able to get them covered by insurance  with a referral from your doctor. If you can&#8217;t find one&#44; write me  shoes for the name of someone in your area.  Carol  . </p>
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<p>  The best socks my husband found are socks for amputees. They are tube    socks and unshaped.   Hmmm&#8230; &nbsp;I have never seen those. &nbsp;Will have to look for them. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find them at pharmacies or places that deal with amputees  appliances like orthotists.  know&#44; but I was once shown a really huge basketball shoe at   Nordstroms. &nbsp;This was way back when they still wore those high top canvas   ones. &nbsp;The salesman sort of reeled out this shoe and it just kept coming.   Can&#8217;t remember what size he said it was&#44; but it was a big one! &nbsp;It was a   special order for one of the Sonics. </p>
<p>Nordstrom&#8217;s will special order but I didn&#8217;t know they&#8217;d go that far.  Never had them admit they could get anything larger than a 16EEE  Carol </p>
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<p>I like Thorlos (Our vision is to make preventative foot health and  well-being a global reality. &#8212; how&#8217;s THAT for a &nbsp;corporat mission?!)  http://www.thorlo.com  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;Our goal is to help you practice Preventive</p>
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<p>   It is not &nbsp;fair and I can&#8217;t even get a pair of shoes for my deformed   feet -) </p>
<p>I know that feeling! &nbsp;If mine get any wider or thicker I shall have to  resort to buying those custom ones made specifically for your feet. &nbsp;Not  that I can afford them mind you. &nbsp;My Mother said jokingly that I should just  wear the shoe boxes. &nbsp;And actually&#44; those might fit!  &#8212;  Type 2  http://www.redshift.com/~juliebove/ </p>
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<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  Anything he wants.    What the heck do people like Michael Jordan wear for socks? Anybody    know?   It is not &nbsp;fair and I can&#8217;t even get a pair of shoes for my deformed   feet -)   &#8212;   mark brown </p>
<p>Yes you can. Find an orthotist in your area.An orthoist can have them  specially made. &nbsp;You may even be able to get them covered by insurance  with a referral from your doctor. If you can&#8217;t find one&#44; write me  shoes for the name of someone in your area.  Carol  . </p>
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<p>Check out http://www.thorlo.com/ . &nbsp;They have a UK site.  &#8212;  Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! == http://www.cauce.org/ </p>
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<p>  The best socks my husband found are socks for amputees. They are tube    socks and unshaped.   Hmmm&#8230; &nbsp;I have never seen those. &nbsp;Will have to look for them. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find them at pharmacies or places that deal with amputees  appliances like orthotists.  know&#44; but I was once shown a really huge basketball shoe at   Nordstroms. &nbsp;This was way back when they still wore those high top canvas   ones. &nbsp;The salesman sort of reeled out this shoe and it just kept coming.   Can&#8217;t remember what size he said it was&#44; but it was a big one! &nbsp;It was a   special order for one of the Sonics. </p>
<p>Nordstrom&#8217;s will special order but I didn&#8217;t know they&#8217;d go that far.  Never had them admit they could get anything larger than a 16EEE  Carol </p>
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<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -I have a pair of socks from Tilley called walking socks that are wool and  padded also. They are not cheap&#44; $22 Canadian&#44; but are guaranteed for 3  years. They are very comfortable. Have a look at www.tilley.com.   In the Volume 14 Number 2 Spring 2001 issue of Diabetes Spectrum&#44;   there&#8217;s an article on socks for diabetics. It&#8217;s on Page 59&#44; and it&#8217;s   titled Clinical Decision Making: Sockwear Recommendations for People   with Diabetes.   Diabetics&quot;with &#8216;normal&#8217; feet should be able to wear &quot;whatever socks   they find to be comfortable.&quot; (p. 61).   Natural fibers are able to absorb moisture from the skin but will hold   the moisture. Acrylics&#44; though&#44; are able to wick moisture away from   the skin.   For diabetics with foot problems&#44; densely padded socks are   recommended. They don&#8217;t actually come out in the article and say &quot;Go   buy Thorlos&quot; but gee&#44; Thorlos are the only socks mentioned by name in   the article and the only ones described in the article that meet their   criteria.   I suspect that&#44; while diabetic athletes without foot problems are not   advised to get densely padded socks of acrylic&#44; it&#8217;s a good idea.   I will point out that&#44; while Thorlos will reduce the chances of   blistering&#44; it is possible to get a blister with them. I&#8217;ve got a big   honking one on my heel that seems to have come from not tying my shoes   properly&#44; allowing my heel to slide up and down in the shoe for 22   miles. My bad.   Rob </p>
<p>Thank you all&#44; I live in N.Ireland and it&#8217;s not so easy to go out and  purchase these things when I don&#8217;t know where to find them but I did get  an appointment with the hospital&#44; ortho?????? (Spelling is not my  strong point???) for July  &#8212;  mark brown </p>
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<p> Anything he wants.   What the heck do people like Michael Jordan wear for socks? Anybody   know? </p>
<p>It is not &nbsp;fair and I can&#8217;t even get a pair of shoes for my deformed  feet -)  &#8212;  mark brown </p>
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<p>  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  &nbsp;I also have some really    clownish socks for edema that are WAY oversized. &nbsp;But sometimes that&#8217;s  all I    can get my feet into. &nbsp;It was a relief to finally find those because my  feet    tend to get cold. &nbsp;And when they were really swollen I had to keep  taking of    my socks at frequent intervals because they were cutting into my feet  and    legs.   The best socks my husband found are socks for amputees. They are tube   socks and unshaped. They are very stretchy&#44; long&#44; and come in white   which is the best color to prevent infection. They come ONE to a package   so you have to buy &nbsp;TWO packages for a pair but he loves them&#44;&#8230; even   more than his Thorlos. </p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; &nbsp;I have never seen those. &nbsp;Will have to look for them.   DH needs socks that go over the knee to be above the top of his braces.   Thorlo makes a great over the knee sock in large size (16 or   somoethhing) but only sells it in Europe and you have to order 60 dozen   sure would like to find someone who lives in Europe who can buy us a   smaller quantity.   What the heck do people like Michael Jordan wear for socks? Anybody   know? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know&#44; but I was once shown a really huge basketball shoe at  Nordstroms. &nbsp;This was way back when they still wore those high top canvas  ones. &nbsp;The salesman sort of reeled out this shoe and it just kept coming.  Can&#8217;t remember what size he said it was&#44; but it was a big one! &nbsp;It was a  special order for one of the Sonics.  &#8212;  Type 2  http://www.redshift.com/~juliebove/ </p>
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<p>I like Thorlos (Our vision is to make preventative foot health and  well-being a global reality. &#8212; how&#8217;s THAT for a &nbsp;corporat mission?!)  http://www.thorlo.com  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;Our goal is to help you practice Preventive</p>
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Lumpini park is a good and convenient place to run if you don&#8217;t mind  doing loop runs. &#160;There are local runners doing their evening workout  there. &#160;I have also run at Jatujuk park which is a little bit bigger but  it is a little ways out of town toward Northern bus route. [...]]]></description>
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<p>Lumpini park is a good and convenient place to run if you don&#8217;t mind  doing loop runs. &nbsp;There are local runners doing their evening workout  there. &nbsp;I have also run at Jatujuk park which is a little bit bigger but  it is a little ways out of town toward Northern bus route. &nbsp;If you ask  people they will be more than happy to direct you there. &nbsp;Good luck&#44; Som  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  I&#8217;ll be spending about 2 weeks in Bangkok about a month before the   Pittsburgh Marathon. &nbsp;I should be peaking on my long run at that time. &nbsp;I&#8217;d   like to do about a 20 miler while there. &nbsp;Does anybody have any experience   running there and also how that kind of thing appears in their culture? &nbsp;I   would hate to do something that makes me stand out more than I already will.   Thanks in advance. &nbsp;Bob  </p>
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<p>I spent the month of October in Bangkok. &nbsp;I tried running outdoors for  a couple of days &amp; couldn&#8217;t take the air pollution. &nbsp;The air quality  was so poor that after a run the sweat that ran down my legs made the  tops of my white running socks gray with soot. &nbsp;Bangkok is a city of  over 10 million people with millions of diesel busses &amp; trucks&#44;  two-cycle mopeds &amp; &nbsp;tuk-tuks&#8230; &nbsp;Also&#44; everyone is cooking in the  streets with coal. &nbsp;The heat was also very intense although being from  south Louisiana&#44; that wasn&#8217;t an issue with me&#44; just the air quality.  Many of the traffic cops&#44; parking lot attendants&#44; and others working  outside wear air filters over their mouths &amp; noses to purify the air  they take in. &nbsp;At times while walking&#44; I literally began choking &amp;  gasping for air. &nbsp;Don&#8217;t mean to sound down on Bangkok&#44; but its just  not a place to run. &nbsp;If you can find your way out of the city&#44; the  countryside is beautiful &amp; the air much cleaner.  Culturally&#44; Bangkok is a wonderful city. &nbsp;Crime is almost nonexistent.  The people of Bangkok &amp; all of Thailand are wonderful people.  cajunman  finisher &#8211; 1999 boston marathon! </p>
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<p>  Just be weary of dogs though because they were   running around everywhere. &nbsp;Anyways&#44; hope i was   helpful.   -/Chris Reath. </p>
<p>Was it watching the dogs do all that running around  that made you weary? <img src='http://runrunaway.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8212;  David (in Hamilton&#44; Ont)  &#8212; </p>
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<p>Bob&#44;  You WILL stand out&#44; because of the height difference (I&#8217;m 6&#8242;4&quot;&#44; but most Thais  don&#8217;t come up to my shoulders). &nbsp;But it doesn&#8217;t matter&#44; because Americans are  very popular in Thailand (at least when I was there). &nbsp;If you go to a place  like the Amarin Towers (where you find KFC&#44; Pizza Hut&#44; and shopping oriented  toward Americans) you basically can&#8217;t get into the places because they&#8217;re so  full of Thais. &nbsp;Culture isn&#8217;t the problem.  The problem for running in Bangkok is air pollution. &nbsp;It is very congested and  one of the most polluted places in the world; Maybe the only place to compare  it with would be Mexico City during an inversion. &nbsp;Be prepared for this. &nbsp;Also  the temperatures are warm (90 degrees and humid is quite common year-round).  If you want to do it&#44; you can. &nbsp;You&#8217;ll be best off if you can get some  transportation to take you out of the Bangkok metro area. &nbsp;But expect it to be  like doing 20 miles in Florida in the summer.  Lyndon  I&#8217;ll be spending about 2 weeks in Bangkok about a month before the  Pittsburgh Marathon. &nbsp;I should be peaking on my long run at that time. &nbsp;I&#8217;d  like to do about a 20 miler while there. &nbsp;Does anybody have any experience  running there and also how that kind of thing appears in their culture? &nbsp;I  would hate to do something that makes me stand out more than I already will.  Thanks in advance. &nbsp;Bob </p>
<p>&quot;Speed Kills&#8230;.It kills those that don&#8217;t have it&quot; &nbsp;&#8212; Brooks Johnson </p>
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<p> I&#8217;ll be spending about 2 weeks in Bangkok about a month before the  Pittsburgh Marathon. &nbsp;I should be peaking on my long run at that time. &nbsp;I&#8217;d  like to do about a 20 miler while there. &nbsp;Does anybody have any experience  running there and also how that kind of thing appears in their culture? &nbsp;I  would hate to do something that makes me stand out more than I already will.  Thanks in advance. &nbsp;Bob </p>
<p>There is no problem with culture while running in Bangkok. Bangkok  is a modern city and there are people concern about their health as  anywhere else. I&#8217;ve run at Lumpini park (2.5 km track on asphalt) and  there lots of runners in the park. There are even a few &quot;serious&quot; ones  with the pre-requisite high-tech attire. The park is accesible by the  skytrain.  Pollution is not really that bad although the park is surrounded by  roads filled with traffic.  Rohaizad </p>
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<p> experience   running there and also how that kind of thing appears in their culture? &nbsp;I </p>
<p>would hate to do something that makes me stand out more than I already will.  I definetely have some experience with overseas running &#8211; not in Bangkok&#44;  but i lived in Shanghai&#44; China over the summer and ran there quite  frequently. &nbsp;Also&#44; when i was visiting Beiijing&#44; i got to run in Tiannamen  Square (one of the highlights of my life). &nbsp;Let me tell you straight off  that as a white person in Bangkok or Shanghai&#44; your going to stand out  whether you walk&#44; run&#44; or juggle balls in the middle of the street. &nbsp;People  ARE going to stare where ever you go. &nbsp;You get used to it after awhile and  learn to accept it as part of the culture (culture shock takes about 2 weeks  to shake off) As far as running being accepted&#44; i never saw tons of people  just running for recreation because generally people in China get most of  their daily exercise from biking everywhere (most can&#8217;t afford a car)&#44; but  it is definetely not unaccepted and looked down upon. &nbsp;Just be weary of dogs  though because they were running around everywhere. &nbsp;Anyways&#44; hope i was  helpful.  -/Chris Reath. </p>
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<p>I&#8217;ll be spending about 2 weeks in Bangkok about a month before the  Pittsburgh Marathon. &nbsp;I should be peaking on my long run at that time. &nbsp;I&#8217;d  like to do about a 20 miler while there. &nbsp;Does anybody have any experience  running there and also how that kind of thing appears in their culture? &nbsp;I  would hate to do something that makes me stand out more than I already will.  Thanks in advance. &nbsp;Bob </p>
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		<title>Need source for l-o-n-g tights</title>
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Does anyone know of a source for long&#44; long tights? &#160;I&#8217;m talkin&#8217; long. &#160;I am  6&#8242;8&#34;! &#160;I am wearing through a very old pair of Hind tights (from before the  company&#8217;s reorganization and downsizing) that I need to replace. &#160;The long  sizes from RRS are not quite long enough. &#160;For cycling&#44; Pearl [...]]]></description>
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<p>Does anyone know of a source for long&#44; long tights? &nbsp;I&#8217;m talkin&#8217; long. &nbsp;I am  6&#8242;8&quot;! &nbsp;I am wearing through a very old pair of Hind tights (from before the  company&#8217;s reorganization and downsizing) that I need to replace. &nbsp;The long  sizes from RRS are not quite long enough. &nbsp;For cycling&#44; Pearl Izumi&#8217;s long  sizes just barely fit &#8212; but are too warm for running.  TIA  &#8211;Cliff &quot;it&#8217;s all in my legs&quot; Shaw  Normal tights and baseball sox? </p>
<p>It took me a minute to visualize this&#44; but I finally got it. &nbsp;This is probably  doable&#44; but my favorite running socks are thin&#44; ankle high things. &nbsp;I think of  baseball socks as thicker. &nbsp;Also&#44; hoping for a more elegant solution. &nbsp;(Also  having a hard time putting the concepts &quot;elegant&quot; 6&#8242;8&quot; and &quot;running&quot; together).  Anyway&#44; if all else fails&#44; &nbsp;this is an idea I will resort to.  &#8212; Cliff </p>
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<p>Normal tights and baseball sox? </p>
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<p>Does anyone know of a source for long&#44; long tights? &nbsp;I&#8217;m talkin&#8217; long. &nbsp;I am  6&#8242;8&quot;! &nbsp;I am wearing through a very old pair of Hind tights (from before the  company&#8217;s reorganization and downsizing) that I need to replace. &nbsp;The long  sizes from RRS are not quite long enough. &nbsp;For cycling&#44; Pearl Izumi&#8217;s long  sizes just barely fit &#8212; but are too warm for running.  TIA  &#8211;Cliff &quot;it&#8217;s all in my legs&quot; Shaw </p>
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