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So what was the verdict with your knee problem??? Or have you now managed to run thru the problem?? If I can get some scanned I’m going to put them on my web site!

Be interested to take a look if you can do it. Miles — Cut the 0_fin~SPAM_ to email back to me

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BTW: On the subject of injuries, I had an MRI scan on my dodgy knee done last week for which I had the follow-up consultation. Now I have the fantastic cross-sectional views of my leg from every angle. Brilliant! So what was the verdict with your knee problem??? Or have you now managed to run thru the problem??

Well, the consultant is an orthopaedic surgeon, so he diagnosed it from that point of view. He could find no evidence of damage or tell-tale irregularities to blame my pain on. In fact, rather than me waffle on, here’s the radiologist’s report: —— Saggital, coronal, and axial sequences were obtained. There is no excess fluid on the knee joint. There is no evidence of a cruciate tear. A fine linear high signal area is shown in the postior third of the medial meniscus. This signal change does not appear to breech the meniscal surface, but nevertheless, it probably indicates a small meniscal tear, probably intra-substance. The medial collateral ligament is normal. No abnormality is seen in the lateral compartments or in the patello femoral joints. Summary: Small tear of the posterior third of the medial meniscus, probably intra-substance. —— So, no abnormality in the lateral compartments – pretty cool eh? Basically he thinks the tear is nothing, and there is nothing visible to support my ailments. He recommends physio. Unless I insist on an exploratory tube being inserted into my knee and wiggled around, which I’m not about to do It seems the knee is getting better of it’s own accord. I am able to do 4.5 miles now rather than just 3 before it starts moaning, and speedwork is bearing up. I will only return to physio if it comes back, but I don’t intend on going above 30 miles a week until winter (built back up to ~20 right now, but large-ish speed element . If I can get some scanned I’m going to put them on my web site! Be interested to take a look if you can do it.

See what I can do. Charlie Williams http://www.quebec.demon.co.uk/ Remove SMUG_GRIN before replying..

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It struck me today that most of what I would call the skill of running lies in avoiding and treating injuries.

Yes I agree. All year long I have been dealing with one injury after another – I feel that I am doing something wrong. I AM doing something wrong! Anyone can run, but we read this newsgroup because we want to "train smart". There is no problem of how to run faster — put in more mileage and do more intervals.

True. This side of things is genetically pre-determined. If you train smart (ie: remain injury-free) you will reach most of your potential. The question is how to do these without getting injured. So, there is running shoes to avoid injury; biomechanics to avoid injury; massage, stretching, and strengthening to avoid injury; not to mention all the psychology and advice of ways to avoid injury. And what to do when you get injured.

Ah, but are you letting the problems get to you? Basically most sports are simple. English Football (soccer to you Americans) is just about kicking a ball about. But you wouldn’t believe the amount of intricacy incorporated into many team’s training plans. Ultimately the team with the simplest and most focussed plan will win (apart from Arsenal, who won because they bought some of the world’s best players for huge wages). Running competitively is not as easy just going out the door, but it sure ain’t about most of the gimmicky stuff folks talk about in this ng. It’s about work and recovery. BTW: On the subject of injuries, I had an MRI scan on my dodgy knee done last week for which I had the follow-up consultation. Now I have the fantastic cross-sectional views of my leg from every angle. Brilliant! Every little ache and pain you get in that big old joint can now be refered to on these pics. You can see all the bone, muscle fibre, cartilege, tendon, even hair and skin! If I can get some scanned I’m going to put them on my web site! Charlie Williams http://www.quebec.demon.co.uk/ Remove SMUG_GRIN before replying..

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It struck me today that most of what I would call the skill of running lies in avoiding and treating injuries. There is no problem of how to run faster — put in more mileage and do more intervals. The question is how to do these without getting injured. So, there is running shoes to avoid injury; biomechanics to avoid injury; massage, stretching, and strengthening to avoid injury; not to mention all the psychology and advice of ways to avoid injury. And what to do when you get injured. This seems in direct contrast to the notion that running is a simple sport. Ii might be my age (48), but my last attempt at running in my mid 20’s was derailed by injuries. Perhaps this is because running is so natural, or perhaps it is because running too much is unnatural. Bob Frick — http://www.psy.sunysb.edu/rfrick/ statistical testing, dyslexia, running & glutamine, flow & intuition

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Yep. That may be one of the universal truths. It’s a delicate balance that is different for each person so there are no magic formulas. You have to experiment for yourself. And unfortunately, we often find the limit by exceeding it – and getting injured. I knock on wood every day now, since I am really ramping up my mileage for Ironman Canada. There is no room for injury recovery in my timetable. I have to trust in my experience of 15 years to sense when to back off a bit, when it’s OK to push. How hard is hard today? It’s part of the thrill, I guess. This seems in direct contrast to the notion that running is a simple sport. It might be my age (48),

Naaaah. <g Mike "TriBop" Tennent http://www.gate.net/~wbrunner/ WebRunner Running My Model Railroad ‘98 Ironman Canada IronVirgins Site

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