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poke out thier own eardrums with a toothpick.  The theme to Rocky?!  

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MJ That’s a pretty good list. I’ll have to see if I can find those in MP3 format. Some of it is a bit lost on me (I’m in England, so the NFL theme doesn’t mean much) I think you’re the only person who actually gave a list. Perhaps everyone else is a bit shy. Cheers Rob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – well, this was discussed earlier, but this is the current cd i listen to on the dreadmill only.  i like the sound of the outdoors when i run. in order… the cult   she sells sanctuary creed   my sacrifice disturbed   get down with the sickness linkin park one step closer guns and roses   sweet child of mine the cult   fire woman puddle of mud   blurry metallica one (rare version) creed one the original rocky theme (get chills when this one comes on) daft punk   one more time dance version sugar ray   answer the phone the nfl monday night football theme (techno mix) the cult   rise dj hydro   trippin the trance dakota moon   looking for a place to land ran this cd twice on monday, ended up doing 14 miles on the dreadmill.  10 minute pace. m When man tries to imagine paradise on earth, the immediate result is a very respectable hell.                      Claudel – 1929 Hi there This is my first posting to this group, so I apologise if I’m asking something that’s regularly asked. I did look at the last few hundred postings and didn’t see any reference. I was wondering. What are peoples views on listening to music whilst running? I’ve got a little MP3 player so it’s totally immune to any kind of "rolling" (since it has no moving parts) and would like to listen to something to up my rate slightly. I’m 37 and have been running on and off (well more off than on) for the last 10 years. However, I’ve just started again after a longish interval of what amounts to nearly 2 years. On short runs (2.5 miles) I’m doing about 8:45 per mile and on longer runs (6.5 miles) nearly 10 minutes per mile. I’d like to get down to about 8:30 on the longer runs. So I guess I’m asking 2 questions: 1. Is it good to listen to music whilst running? 2. Any recommendations for something with a simple rhythm (that would encourage an 8:30 minute mile Cheers Rob

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Ed I’m assuming that you are in America. We are definitely two nations separated by a common language. In the UK a "fanny pack" would most definitely mean something else. (probably be worn the other way round for starters Cheers Rob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I use a Camelback fanny pack that cinches up and doesn’t bounce.  very handy Now, for my next question. What are peoples views on taking water on a training run? I don’t on the short runs, but on the 6.3 miler I take a little container that slips over the hand and holds perhaps 1/2 cupful. Cheers Rob (Hope you don’t mind, I changed the subject line) I always take water with me, no matter how short the run. This is probably because, when I started way back long ago, I ran on an indoor track above a heated swimming pool, and I’d get so darn parched. So nowadays it’s mostly habit, but I have noticed that I run *better* if I keep myself hydrated. I take a 0.5 liter Poland Spring bottle with me (refilled from the tap), and that lasts me for 3 miles. When I trained for a 10-miler, I’d refill it at a water fountain at about the halfway mark. During the actual race, I didn’t take a bottle with me, and I regretted it….. still don’t quite have the hang of it, grabbing those little dixie cups and trying to drink from them while running. After my run, I refill the same bottle and make a concious effort to finish it within the next hour or so. Takeaway message: keep hydrated, run better! jen

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well, this was discussed earlier, but this is the current cd i listen to on the dreadmill only.  i like the sound of the outdoors when i run. in order… the cult   she sells sanctuary creed   my sacrifice disturbed   get down with the sickness linkin park one step closer guns and roses   sweet child of mine the cult   fire woman puddle of mud   blurry metallica one (rare version) creed one the original rocky theme (get chills when this one comes on) daft punk   one more time dance version sugar ray   answer the phone the nfl monday night football theme (techno mix) the cult   rise dj hydro   trippin the trance dakota moon   looking for a place to land ran this cd twice on monday, ended up doing 14 miles on the dreadmill.  10 minute pace.   m When man tries to imagine paradise on earth, the immediate result is a very respectable hell.                      Claudel – 1929                         – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there This is my first posting to this group, so I apologise if I’m asking something that’s regularly asked. I did look at the last few hundred postings and didn’t see any reference. I was wondering. What are peoples views on listening to music whilst running? I’ve got a little MP3 player so it’s totally immune to any kind of "rolling" (since it has no moving parts) and would like to listen to something to up my rate slightly. I’m 37 and have been running on and off (well more off than on) for the last 10 years. However, I’ve just started again after a longish interval of what amounts to nearly 2 years. On short runs (2.5 miles) I’m doing about 8:45 per mile and on longer runs (6.5 miles) nearly 10 minutes per mile. I’d like to get down to about 8:30 on the longer runs. So I guess I’m asking 2 questions: 1. Is it good to listen to music whilst running? 2. Any recommendations for something with a simple rhythm (that would encourage an 8:30 minute mile Cheers Rob

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Now, for my next question. What are peoples views on taking water on a training run? I don’t on the short runs, but on the 6.3 miler I take a little container that slips over the hand and holds perhaps 1/2 cupful. Cheers Rob

(Hope you don’t mind, I changed the subject line) I always take water with me, no matter how short the run. This is probably because, when I started way back long ago, I ran on an indoor track above a heated swimming pool, and I’d get so darn parched. So nowadays it’s mostly habit, but I have noticed that I run *better* if I keep myself hydrated. I take a 0.5 liter Poland Spring bottle with me (refilled from the tap), and that lasts me for 3 miles. When I trained for a 10-miler, I’d refill it at a water fountain at about the halfway mark. During the actual race, I didn’t take a bottle with me, and I regretted it….. still don’t quite have the hang of it, grabbing those little dixie cups and trying to drink from them while running. After my run, I refill the same bottle and make a concious effort to finish it within the next hour or so. Takeaway message: keep hydrated, run better! jen

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I use a Camelback fanny pack that cinches up and doesn’t bounce.  very handy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, for my next question. What are peoples views on taking water on a training run? I don’t on the short runs, but on the 6.3 miler I take a little container that slips over the hand and holds perhaps 1/2 cupful. Cheers Rob (Hope you don’t mind, I changed the subject line) I always take water with me, no matter how short the run. This is probably because, when I started way back long ago, I ran on an indoor track above a heated swimming pool, and I’d get so darn parched. So nowadays it’s mostly habit, but I have noticed that I run *better* if I keep myself hydrated. I take a 0.5 liter Poland Spring bottle with me (refilled from the tap), and that lasts me for 3 miles. When I trained for a 10-miler, I’d refill it at a water fountain at about the halfway mark. During the actual race, I didn’t take a bottle with me, and I regretted it….. still don’t quite have the hang of it, grabbing those little dixie cups and trying to drink from them while running. After my run, I refill the same bottle and make a concious effort to finish it within the next hour or so. Takeaway message: keep hydrated, run better! jen

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Dear Anne Well either you’re driving too fast, or they weren’t looking. Wearing headphones needn’t mean taking unnecessary risks or do you have to spend your time picking the teeth of deaf people out of your air intakes as well? Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Headphone wearing joggers are the reason I am constantly rinsing blood, and hair from the front grill of my pick-up truck.  While you’re at it, why not try a blindfold too?

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: I’ve been reading the responses to this with interest. I run in the city, : and unless I’m running with the club or doing a very short session, I always : wear a walkman. : : However I very rarely listen to music, instead I listen to talking books. I : find wanting to know what happens next in the book I am "reading" a good : extra motivation for some of the runs! : : I borrow the books from a library – they are rather expensive to buy. It : also means that I listen to quite a diverse range of material – not just the : kinds of things I would normally read. : : Does anyone else do this – or am I alone?! I did it once and it worked pretty good.  At audible.com, I was able to get my first book for less than $2.  (Downloaded it to my MP3 player).  I used it during a long run and it helped during those middle miles where the run seems like it will never end.  I was running along a rail trail so there wasn’t any traffic, and it was cold, so I didn’t see any other runners, bikers, or roller bladers. (The trail gets crowed during nice weather).

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I use a water carrier, on runs longer than an hour, filled with watered down sport drink.  I thought I’d have to make a comfort stop, but I didn’t.  Staying hydrated and comfortable keeps me running longer, and it gives me a nice way of having a walking break: quick slurp, couple of deep breaths, and away again. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, for my next question. What are peoples views on taking water on a training run? I don’t on the short runs, but on the 6.3 miler I take a little container that slips over the hand and holds perhaps 1/2 cupful. Cheers Rob

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The only time I listen to music while running is on a treadmill.  As the pace is steady and the scenery doesn’t change – why not? I tried listening to music on the road, but found that I’d keep slowing down, or losing concentration.  I’ve even tried books on tape but they are worse.  Now, I just concentrate on my breathing, the traffic, my stride length, looking for places to take walk breaks… Interesting that you wanted to listen to music during a race.  I’m running my first marathon in April and I didn’t even think of headphones.  I want to make sure I can hear the spectators who’ve made the effort to come out and cheer on us slow plodders at the back. Hello there, 1. Is it good to listen to music whilst running? It is for me – it isn’t for some other people. I can’t do without it, though, if I’m running on my own. I think you should listen to music if it helps you get round/enhances the experience. Just be careful, of course, not to block out all sound, as that’s always dangerous.

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Dear all I’m amazed by the amount of responses that my message has generated. Far more than I’ve ever got anywhere else. It’s great.  In answer to the various comments I would say that: 1. My short run (2.3 miles) is done at night in the dark. However, it’s all on pavements (sidewalks) and not very busy (I live in a rural town in England) However, last night I did it without music and was slightly quicker. 2. My longer run (6.3 miles) is out on country roads and whilst there is no pavement I only do this loop in the day (usu Sunday) and to be honest I usually can see the car before I hear it, so music isn’t a problem. 3. I realise that in order to improve I probably need to radically improve my technique and use tools like Fartlek. The only problem is I HATE IT. It seems so much easier to just get out there an run, but I will try harder in future. 4. I don’t think there’s any way I could listen to a talking book. I do this all the time in the car, but I find running somehow more distracting. I once tried doing my times table and found it very hard work. 5. I’ll definitely be steering clear of Barry Manilow. Whether running or not 6. I’m rather disappointed to find that even my target speed is considerably slower than George W Bush, and he’s gotta be older than me (I’m 37) Now, for my next question. What are peoples views on taking water on a training run? I don’t on the short runs, but on the 6.3 miler I take a little container that slips over the hand and holds perhaps 1/2 cupful. Cheers Rob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been reading the responses to this with interest. I run in the city, and unless I’m running with the club or doing a very short session, I always wear a walkman. However I very rarely listen to music, instead I listen to talking books. I find wanting to know what happens next in the book I am "reading" a good extra motivation for some of the runs! I borrow the books from a library – they are rather expensive to buy. It also means that I listen to quite a diverse range of material – not just the kinds of things I would normally read. Does anyone else do this – or am I alone?! It does mean that I can still hear the traffic etc pretty well, although I suspect I would be slightly safer without the headphones. It also means I can ignore "comments" from delightful locals very easily by pretending not to hear… SJ Hi there This is my first posting to this group, so I apologise if I’m asking something that’s regularly asked. I did look at the last few hundred postings and didn’t see any reference. I was wondering. What are peoples views on listening to music whilst running? I’ve got a little MP3 player so it’s totally immune to any kind of "rolling" (since it has no moving parts) and would like to listen to something to up my rate slightly. I’m 37 and have been running on and off (well more off than on) for the last 10 years. However, I’ve just started again after a longish interval of what amounts to nearly 2 years. On short runs (2.5 miles) I’m doing about 8:45 per mile and on longer runs (6.5 miles) nearly 10 minutes per mile. I’d like to get down to about 8:30 on the longer runs. So I guess I’m asking 2 questions: 1. Is it good to listen to music whilst running? 2. Any recommendations for something with a simple rhythm (that would encourage an 8:30 minute mile Cheers Rob

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Headphone wearing joggers are the reason I am constantly rinsing blood, and hair from the front grill of my pick-up truck.  While you’re at it, why not try a blindfold too?

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However I very rarely listen to music, instead I listen to talking books. I find wanting to know what happens next in the book I am "reading" a good extra motivation for some of the runs!

We call them audio books or books on tape. I borrow the books from a library – they are rather expensive to buy. It also means that I listen to quite a diverse range of material – not just the kinds of things I would normally read.

My last 7 years of work included a 45 minute drive each way.   I also listened to many, many books both fiction and non-fiction. It was a delightful way to pass the time during my drive and keep up with "reading." OTOH, I listen to nothing while running. I love the natural sounds of the environment even those rednecks in pick up trucks expressing enthusiasm for a man wearing tights plus I feel much safer.   It does mean that I can still hear the traffic etc pretty well, although I suspect I would be slightly safer without the headphones.

Right up to some dog with the low growl that you did not hear bites you on the back of the leg. — Caveat Lector "the further you go outside, the further you go inside" – B. McKibben Doug Freese

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Hello there, 1. Is it good to listen to music whilst running?

It is for me – it isn’t for some other people. I can’t do without it, though, if I’m running on my own. I think you should listen to music if it helps you get round/enhances the experience. Just be careful, of course, not to block out all sound, as that’s always dangerous. I’ve done much more backpacking than running, and I’ve found that quite a lot of backpackers seem to get very worked up at the idea of other people listening to music while walking. Apparently it can apply in running too. I posted in another thread that I did my first cross-country run today. I was worried that I’d find the going even tougher than it needed to be without my MP3 player, so I was planning to wear it. However, the bunch of people I’d gone along with persuaded me not to. When I asked why, there didn’t seem to be any good reason. The bottom line was that it was considered "anti-social". Bearing in mind that this was a race, and that no-one was talking or running together, that made no sense to me. Still, out of courtesy for their greater experience of doing these runs I left it behind, but the run was so exhausting that I’ll be taking it next time unless someone can give me a good reason not to. Each to their own, it seems to me Best wishes, — Shirl

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Might be dangerous if ya blast it.. Where I run.. I can still hear traffic with my MP3 player playing, and I shut it off when going around unusually curvy or busy segments where I need to be on alert.. But when I have a long cool stretch of road…. OOOOOoooh I jussa luv machine.. Ah don’ work for nobuddy bu choo… ~Willy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’d like to get down to about 8:30 on the longer runs. So I guess I’m asking 2 questions: 1. Is it good to listen to music whilst running? If that’s what it takes to motivate you to run, I’d say it is good. However, I would never, ever run outside with earphones on. I believe this to be very dangerous. 2. Any recommendations for something with a simple rhythm (that would encourage an 8:30 minute mile Instead of music to help with speed, try this: a) ‘easy’ speedwork once a week, something like     5 x 800m in 4:00, with a 400m slow jog recovery     between each interval (close to 4:00). This is     about 8:00/mile pace, which will help make those     8:30/miles feel slower. If you find this session easy,     decrease the recovery time to 200m (2:00). b) ‘fartlek’ run once or twice a week. This means that     on these runs you speed up and slow down at any     time, for however long you want. These runs are     completely unstructured. The only rule is that you     have to vary your pace. For instance, on your     next shorter run (2.5 miles), try speeding up to     8:30/mile of faster for a few blocks, or a few     minutes… you get the idea. These runs are great     because they allow you to tailor your aggressiveness     depending on how you feel right there and then. I     like doing hilly fartleks where I attack the uphills     and recover on the downs. c)  increase your mileage. do this slowly but surely.     I recommend about 3 – 5 miles a week at most, for     3 weeks at  time – then an easy week for recovery.     Then the cycle starts again. — David (in Hamilton, Ont) "Bid me run, and I will strive with things impossible."                                    Shakespeare, Julius Caesar http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/home.html –

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was wondering. What are peoples views on listening to music whilst running? I’m one of the infidels: I couldn’t imagine running without my tunes blasting loudly in my ears. Running + music go together perfectly. And yes, when no one is sharing my trail, I go ahead and sing, too. 2. Any recommendations for something with a simple rhythm (that would encourage an 8:30 minute mile Stay away from Barry Manilow? jen

I like to use an mp3 player on my long runs. Some good music I use is the soundtrack to "Lara Croft Tomb Raider".

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I’ve been reading the responses to this with interest. I run in the city, and unless I’m running with the club or doing a very short session, I always wear a walkman. However I very rarely listen to music, instead I listen to talking books. I find wanting to know what happens next in the book I am "reading" a good extra motivation for some of the runs! I borrow the books from a library – they are rather expensive to buy. It also means that I listen to quite a diverse range of material – not just the kinds of things I would normally read. Does anyone else do this – or am I alone?! It does mean that I can still hear the traffic etc pretty well, although I suspect I would be slightly safer without the headphones. It also means I can ignore "comments" from delightful locals very easily by pretending not to hear… SJ

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there This is my first posting to this group, so I apologise if I’m asking something that’s regularly asked. I did look at the last few hundred postings and didn’t see any reference. I was wondering. What are peoples views on listening to music whilst running? I’ve got a little MP3 player so it’s totally immune to any kind of "rolling" (since it has no moving parts) and would like to listen to something to up my rate slightly. I’m 37 and have been running on and off (well more off than on) for the last 10 years. However, I’ve just started again after a longish interval of what amounts to nearly 2 years. On short runs (2.5 miles) I’m doing about 8:45 per mile and on longer runs (6.5 miles) nearly 10 minutes per mile. I’d like to get down to about 8:30 on the longer runs. So I guess I’m asking 2 questions: 1. Is it good to listen to music whilst running? 2. Any recommendations for something with a simple rhythm (that would encourage an 8:30 minute mile Cheers Rob

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i think i know what you want….. i used to go to spinbike classes , where the music is very important to carry the class tempo. We had different songs for diferent stages, most of them 4×4 paterns, if you know something about music, ……so we could pedal exactly when the  hits of the paterns were. If you have a mp3 player and a computer you can edit your own songs, adapting to the tempo that you want (using an editing program , like "djs mk1"   that adjust tempo & pitch and it