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   No, I don’t know her but I do know that any young girl at 14 to run that well must have had some specific and specialized training which she by herself could never have come up with. No girl that age could have run a time by natural good genes alone as Robert Grumbine believes. Someone with some experience is guiding her and that is why she can do this.   I only hope that at such a young age, she doesn’t burn out and the people behind her set a fun and happy attitude toward training and don’t force her too much or she will certainly stop running. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – geee, and you know this 14 yr old????   Yes, there is always someone especially when that someone has figured out the mathematics of training better than you have. For the 14 year old girl didn’t beat your friend because she was better. She beat your friend because her mathematical approach to training was better than yours.   Her mathematics of training was probably not her own but it came from someone with greater math knowledge of training than his and that is why she beat your friend. If you really look at it from a mathematical perspective. It comes down to her math was better than your friend’s math.  Now, how does that make you and your friend feel. Not only outrun but OUTCALCULATED.   From Saturday’s race, one of the guys in my running club describing his race: "I’d been passed by a guy earlier on.  Starting about mile 4 [8k race with splits every mile], knowing that it was mostly flat or downhill, I picked up the pace.  We started passing each other back and forth, until I finally pulled ahead for good with a couple hundred yards to go.  I was feeling good about it and was going to coast on in until I looked ahead, and saw this little girl ahead of me." (She really was, by the way, not just appearence.  14 years old.)   There’s always someone. — Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links. Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences Before you buy.

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geee, and you know this 14 yr old???? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Yes, there is always someone especially when that someone has figured out the mathematics of training better than you have. For the 14 year old girl didn’t beat your friend because she was better. She beat your friend because her mathematical approach to training was better than yours.   Her mathematics of training was probably not her own but it came from someone with greater math knowledge of training than his and that is why she beat your friend. If you really look at it from a mathematical perspective. It comes down to her math was better than your friend’s math.  Now, how does that make you and your friend feel. Not only outrun but OUTCALCULATED.   From Saturday’s race, one of the guys in my running club describing his race: "I’d been passed by a guy earlier on.  Starting about mile 4 [8k race with splits every mile], knowing that it was mostly flat or downhill, I picked up the pace.  We started passing each other back and forth, until I finally pulled ahead for good with a couple hundred yards to go.  I was feeling good about it and was going to coast on in until I looked ahead, and saw this little girl ahead of me." (She really was, by the way, not just appearence.  14 years old.)   There’s always someone. — Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links. Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences Before you buy.

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  That’s quite outstanding for a 14 year old girl. I wonder who is coaching her. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe not.  I suspect the 14 year old in question was Jennifer Iosue, a local running prodigy, and she finished that race in 32:58.  She ran a 10k in 37:32 a few weeks ago. So, did he beat her? ;) -jeff   From Saturday’s race, one of the guys in my running club describing his race: "I’d been passed by a guy earlier on.  Starting about mile 4 [8k race with splits every mile], knowing that it was mostly flat or downhill, I picked up the pace.  We started passing each other back and forth, until I finally pulled ahead for good with a couple hundred yards to go.  I was feeling good about it and was going to coast on in until I looked ahead, and saw this little girl ahead of me." (She really was, by the way, not just appearence.  14 years old.)   There’s always someone

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So, did he beat her? ;)

  As he put it, ruefully, "So I really pulled out the stops, pushed hard, and yes, I beat a little girl to the finish line."   (The ‘little girl’ in question ran the 8k, somewhat hilly, course in under 33:00.  Last year she ran the 10k I like (rolling downhill course) in 37 and change.  Lot of talent there, and I hope she can improve.)) — Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links. Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences

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Maybe not.  I suspect the 14 year old in question was Jennifer Iosue, a local running prodigy, and she finished that race in 32:58.  She ran a 10k in 37:32 a few weeks ago.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So, did he beat her? ;) -jeff   From Saturday’s race, one of the guys in my running club describing his race: "I’d been passed by a guy earlier on.  Starting about mile 4 [8k race with splits every mile], knowing that it was mostly flat or downhill, I picked up the pace.  We started passing each other back and forth, until I finally pulled ahead for good with a couple hundred yards to go.  I was feeling good about it and was going to coast on in until I looked ahead, and saw this little girl ahead of me." (She really was, by the way, not just appearence.  14 years old.)   There’s always someone

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  No, he didn’t beat her. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So, did he beat her? ;) -jeff   From Saturday’s race, one of the guys in my running club describing his race: "I’d been passed by a guy earlier on.  Starting about mile 4 [8k race with splits every mile], knowing that it was mostly flat or downhill, I picked up the pace.  We started passing each other back and forth, until I finally pulled ahead for good with a couple hundred yards to go.  I was feeling good about it and was going to coast on in until I looked ahead, and saw this little girl ahead of me." (She really was, by the way, not just appearence.  14 years old.)   There’s always someone. — Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links. Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences

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So, did he beat her? ;) -jeff

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   From Saturday’s race, one of the guys in my running club describing his race: "I’d been passed by a guy earlier on.  Starting about mile 4 [8k race with splits every mile], knowing that it was mostly flat or downhill, I picked up the pace.  We started passing each other back and forth, until I finally pulled ahead for good with a couple hundred yards to go.  I was feeling good about it and was going to coast on in until I looked ahead, and saw this little girl ahead of me." (She really was, by the way, not just appearence.  14 years old.)   There’s always someone. — Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur

activities notes and links. Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New

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  From Saturday’s race, one of the guys in my running club describing his race: "I’d been passed by a guy earlier on.  Starting about mile 4 [8k race with splits every mile], knowing that it was mostly flat or downhill, I picked up the pace.  We started passing each other back and forth, until I finally pulled ahead for good with a couple hundred yards to go.  I was feeling good about it and was going to coast on in until I looked ahead, and saw this little girl ahead of me." (She really was, by the way, not just appearence.  14 years old.)   There’s always someone. — Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links. Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences

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   Yes, there is always someone especially when that someone has figured out the mathematics of training better than you have. For the 14 year old girl didn’t beat your friend because she was better. She beat your friend because her mathematical approach to training was better than yours.    Her mathematics of training was probably not her own but it came from someone with greater math knowledge of training than his and that is why she beat your friend. If you really look at it from a mathematical perspective. It comes down to her math was better than your friend’s math.   Now, how does that make you and your friend feel. Not only outrun but OUTCALCULATED. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   From Saturday’s race, one of the guys in my running club describing his race: "I’d been passed by a guy earlier on.  Starting about mile 4 [8k race with splits every mile], knowing that it was mostly flat or downhill, I picked up the pace.  We started passing each other back and forth, until I finally pulled ahead for good with a couple hundred yards to go.  I was feeling good about it and was going to coast on in until I looked ahead, and saw this little girl ahead of me." (She really was, by the way, not just appearence.  14 years old.)   There’s always someone. — Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur

activities notes and links. Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences

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