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She’s a rover! No girl who calls herself a babe, is one. Don’t make me tell you years.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Check out coolrunning.com – there are more serious groups there  I’ve found – sorry you are meeting such idiots here – I was hoping to find some  serious people but that seems to be impossible. – Linda A number of us are serious about running. It depends on what you mean by serious. I think Linda and Pete just want serious answers to their serious questions, rather than having to wade through all the banter amongst the trollers. They may not qualify as serious runners from a speed/mpw/racing point of view. But anyone that wants to come here to learn and share needs to be given some respect as a serious runner. The best way to avoid the non-running BS is to create a kill file and plonk the worst trolls. I’ll give most new trolls a fair chance. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!! RAther funny coming from a troll. One whose 99% of contribution on this group can be classified into three categories: 1) Inane pro-right wing posts 2) Attacks on SwStudio 3) Meaningless OT replies to serious posts, intended solely to pick

fights And for that, I’m sorry. I thought I was doing better. No? tkb

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The best way to avoid the non-running BS is to create a kill file and plonk the worst trolls. I’ll give most new trolls a fair chance. Some of them are rather humorous, but after a while they all become boring. Especially if I come here to learn and share knowlege related to running. Granted, I myself am probably in quite a few kill files, and that’s fine, because I got caught up in all the non-running, "Bush vs the human rights activists" posts. So I deserve to be there. I am still trying to sort out trolls from non-trolls. Sometimes it’s hard for, as someone else mentioned, someone with troll-like behavior will sometimes give what appears to be pretty rational information.

The trolls will throw out some good information once in a while just to stay out of your kill file. It’s usually not worth having to read the other 99% of the garbage. If anyone is rude, uses profanity, or puts someone down, they’re gone, even on their first post. tkb

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And why don’t you sing songs for me?   Huh?

Actually I heard one the other day that would be appropriate, and it reminded me of you, it was by an irish guy who does a lot of work for the "Cam Neely foundation" and the song is titled "I’m an a**hole". It goes "I’m an a**hole, a**hole, I’m an a**hole, a**hole" etc etc. Do a search on WinMX for the mp3.

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Listen up dude. DO NOT insult our British Sherriff Mr.Blair.

He’s a total dickwad, just like Bush.

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The best way to avoid the non-running BS is to create a kill file and plonk the worst trolls. I’ll give most new trolls a fair chance. Some of them are rather humorous, but after a while they all become boring. Especially if I come here to learn and share knowlege related to running. Granted, I myself am probably in quite a few kill files, and that’s fine, because I got caught up in all the non-running, "Bush vs the human rights activists" posts. So I deserve to be there.

I am still trying to sort out trolls from non-trolls. Sometimes it’s hard for, as someone else mentioned, someone with troll-like behavior will sometimes give what appears to be pretty rational information. I was Googling on Saw Palmetto one day and happened across alt.baldspot.  If you are interested in a newsgroup that has gone to hell, stop by that one. There are a couple of posters there that have made trolling an art and have taken it to the next step — it makes the trolls here looke like wannabes. D. Wells Remove the numbers to mail me. Include the text "gore-in-2004" (without quotation marks) to ensure you make it past the spam filter.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A number of us are serious about running. It depends on what you mean by serious. Well, that depends on what you mean by depends. I think Linda and Pete just want serious answers to their serious questions, I’d like to know how to cure brain cancer, AIDS, and world hunger. But if I post here requesting this, I won’t get any serious responses, because no-one knows.

A lot of people here seem to know a lot about who best can run the USA, including yourself. There certainly is quite a bit of serious discussion about that. rather than having to wade through all the banter amongst the trollers. Wah wah wah wah wah. Trolls are part of unmoderated forums.

Who’s crying? Not I. I gave a perfectly good way to ignore the trolls. No problems here. Again, serious according to whose standards? Serious is a state of mind. There are no externally imposed

standards. It seemed you were imposing your standards. I stand corrected. Anyone, even overweight, baby-stroller-pushing,

caloricly-challenged newbies, can be a serious runners, IMO. Overweight runners can be serious, but serious runners have trouble staying overweight for very long.

It depends on your definition of overweight. Overweight by serious runners’ standards could be considered too thin by the masses. Some members of my running club could stand to lose about 20 pounds. They’ve been that way for years. They are serious runners. At least by my loosely imposed standards. tkb

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"Lovers in the night, they’ll be together, romance at first sight…"

And why don’t you sing songs for me?   Huh?

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I’d like to know how to cure brain cancer, AIDS, and world hunger. But if I post here requesting this, I won’t get any serious responses, because no-one knows.

Respect, Donny m’boy, respect! I think we’ll make a troll of you yet

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Or is this newsgroup used for other purposes?  

I’m a covert operative with the CIA and I use it to communicate in deeply-embedded code with my contacts.  But that’s just me. Do people — runners — who use this group understand my question?

I sure don’t. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – _______ Blog, or dog? Who knows. But if you see my lost pup, bring him back! http://journals.aol.com/virginiaz/DreamingofLeonardo                    - –  //

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Correction: ’strangers in the night, they’ll be together….’

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I think Linda and Pete just want serious answers to their serious questions

As many have pointed out, it could hardly be termed a ’serious question’. But anyone that wants to come here to learn and share needs to be given some respect as a serious runner.

Y’see, that’s where we differ.   I believe respect has to be earned.   It isn’t an assumed-until-proven-otherwise attribute. The best way to avoid the non-running BS is to create a kill file and plonk the worst trolls.

Why most folk don’t follow this advice is beyond me. I’ll give most new trolls a fair chance.

Jolly sporting of you. Some of them are rather humorous, but after a while they all become

boring. Heresy!   Heresy! Especially if I come here to learn and share knowlege related to running.

So, don’t open, read or reply to trolls.   It’s not like they’re hard to spot.   Problem solved. Granted, I myself am probably in quite a few kill files, and that’s fine, because I got caught up in all the non-running, "Bush vs the human rights activists" posts. So I deserve to be there.

I missed that.   Should I killfile you? Again, serious according to whose standards? Anyone, even overweight, baby-stroller-pushing, caloricly-challenged newbies, can be a serious runners, IMO.

<splutter Yeah.  And Tony Blair is a serious ’searcher of peace and truth’.

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Check out coolrunning.com – there are more serious groups there I’ve found – sorry you are meeting such idiots here – I was hoping to find some serious people but that seems to be impossible. – Linda A number of us are serious about running.

It depends on what you mean by serious. I think Linda and Pete just want serious answers to their serious questions, rather than having to wade through all the banter amongst the trollers. They may not qualify as serious runners from a speed/mpw/racing point of view. But anyone that wants to come here to learn and share needs to be given some respect as a serious runner. The best way to avoid the non-running BS is to create a kill file and plonk the worst trolls. I’ll give most new trolls a fair chance. Some of them are rather humorous, but after a while they all become boring. Especially if I come here to learn and share knowlege related to running. Granted, I myself am probably in quite a few kill files, and that’s fine, because I got caught up in all the non-running, "Bush vs the human rights activists" posts. So I deserve to be there. Unfortunately, most serious runners have not given much thought to how many calories one burns while pushing a baby stroller. Not even the ones who run with baby strollers — most of them are more interested in performance than losing weight. Doesn’t that in itself tell you something ? Serious runners don’t have weight problems, at least not for long. If you’d care to be a serious runner for a few years, you won’t have a weight problem either.

Again, serious according to whose standards? Anyone, even overweight, baby-stroller-pushing, caloricly-challenged newbies, can be a serious runners, IMO. Try to be a little patient with us, because this "calorie counting with a baby stroller" business is as new to us as to you.

On that we agree. tkb

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I just want to thank Donovan for being a part of this newsgroup.  You don’t retaliate often but when you do it makes it all worth it.  On many of the posts yours are the ones that I look forward to reading.  You seem like one of the most knowledgeable ones here. Thanks again HM

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Unfortunately, most serious runners have not given much thought to how many calories one burns while pushing a baby stroller.

Especially when you’re gay.

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No. It’s a place for us all to whine about the trolls,

Even we trolls whine about us.

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I just want to thank Donovan for being a part of this newsgroup.  You don’t retaliate often but when you do it makes it all worth it.  On many of the posts yours are the ones that I look forward to reading.  You seem like one of the most knowledgeable ones here. Thanks again HM

"Lovers in the night, they’ll be together, romance at first sight…"

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A number of us are serious about running. It depends on what you mean by serious.

Well, that depends on what you mean by depends. I think Linda and Pete just want serious answers to their serious questions,

I’d like to know how to cure brain cancer, AIDS, and world hunger. But if I post here requesting this, I won’t get any serious responses, because no-one knows. However, you can count on the trolls to answer almost anything (especially questions that no-one knows the answer to). rather than having to wade through all the banter amongst the trollers.

Wah wah wah wah wah. Trolls are part of unmoderated forums. Again, serious according to whose standards?

Serious is a state of mind. There are no externally imposed standards. Anyone, even overweight, baby-stroller-pushing, caloricly-challenged newbies, can be a serious runners, IMO.

Overweight runners can be serious, but serious runners have trouble staying overweight for very long. Cheers, — Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Or is this newsgroup used for other purposes?  Do people — runners — who use this group understand my question?

No. It’s a place for us all to whine about the trolls, and to yearn for the insipid, moderated banality of web forums for drooling morons unable to use any internet application besides a web browser. Cheers, — Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Check out coolrunning.com – there are more serious groups there I’ve found – sorry you are meeting such idiots here – I was hoping to find some serious people but that seems to be impossible. – Linda

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Or is this newsgroup used for other purposes?  Do people — runners — who use this group understand my question? _______ Blog, or dog? Who knows. But if you see my lost pup, bring him back! http://journals.aol.com/virginiaz/DreamingofLeonardo                    - –  //

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Or is this newsgroup used for other purposes?

Yes, we use it to jookup for illicit sex. When will you be joining us? Do people — runners — who use this group understand my question?

Nobody does.

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sorry you are meeting such idiots here –

Oh, you two aquainted?

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Check out coolrunning.com – there are more serious groups there I’ve found – sorry you are meeting such idiots here – I was hoping to find some serious people but that seems to be impossible. – Linda

A number of us are serious about running. Unfortunately, most serious runners have not given much thought to how many calories one burns while pushing a baby stroller. Not even the ones who run with baby strollers — most of them are more interested in performance than losing weight. Doesn’t that in itself tell you something ? Serious runners don’t have weight problems, at least not for long. If you’d care to be a serious runner for a few years, you won’t have a weight problem either. Try to be a little patient with us, because this "calorie counting with a baby stroller" business is as new to us as to you. Cheers, — Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Or is this newsgroup used for other purposes?  Do people — runners — who use this group understand my question? _______ Blog, or dog? Who knows. But if you see my lost pup, bring him back! http://journals.aol.com/virginiaz/DreamingofLeonardo                    - –  //

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Really for running?   No.   We tend to use the roads, trails and parks for running.   The newsgroup we use to chatter amongst ourselves about subjects that may, or may not, be directly related to running.   It was ever thus, and ever will be. Or is this newsgroup used for other purposes?

Oh, you mean the wind-ups?   Let me explain. Like any good broad-spectrum antibiotic, this group can cure all sorts of disease.   You have a problem with technical training?   Lyndon, Sam and Donny pop along.   Mystical running?   Oz is your man.    Desert running? Common.    Ultras?   Stumpus, Freese, et al.   Girlie stuff?   Mary049, joe p., Teresea.  And so on… For each element within running there are a number of conflicting – and usually contrary – opinions on ‘how best to achieve your goals’.  My take on the matter is that running is an activity best learned through personal experience – i.e. you make mistakes, you learn, you adapt, you accumulate knowledge, you get better.   Given that we are not running to survive, but for fun, I think this process of self-education is a core part of the activity.   Others disagree.   So I tease them. Do people — runners — who use this group understand my question?

As a runner who uses this group, I’d have to say "no".   Does this matter? Probably not.    As long as one person does, that’s fine. OTOH, if no-one understand you, are you *really* asking a question?  Are you?  Huh?

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