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  You should be capable of going 2 hours without any fluids in that cooler temperature.

Beware, though, of dry air, as it often gets at this time of year in eastern North America.  You can lose a lot of H2O by exhaling water vapor. Certainly, if your body says it’s thirsty, it probably is.  Small quantities at appropriate intervals is preferable to guzzling after developing a revenous thirst.

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I’m in Ottawa. However, I’ve gone running yesterday and I’m not sure I should have. But yesterday it was 18C and just as gorgeous. It’s tempting to go again, though! The forecast is the same for tomorrow except for 10C temp. I will go tomorrow for sure… What a beautiful day. If you are in Ottawa, stop reading and go run if you havn’t done so already.

i always stop what i’m doing and go running instead…. a little tough to do while at work though. seems like there are more than a few fellow Ottawans on the ng, eh? me, too….. yup, gorgeous running weather (then again, a rainy day is good too  :-)

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I have heard "Bonk" used in cycling circles a lot in the UK

Well, this says nothing about the meaning of the word They may bonk often, though. Cheers, Rudiger (not native english speaking, always interested in learning new words [...]

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Here in the UK, to "Bonk" means to have sexual intercourse.  If it means the same thing in Canada, then it’s no wonder you were in bad shape by the time you got home.   ;o) I think I’ve heard it used that way hereabouts too, though not as often as "boink", which itself isn’t that common. The context should make it clear in any case which is intended, unless it’s a sentence like "I don’t want to bonk before the end of the race". Might be an interesting finish line.

We met in the late afternoon, just the two of us. She took the lead, and I struggled to keep up. By the end of the warmup we were both already breathing hard; when the inevitable bonk came, I don’t think either of us even noticed. — Terry R. McConnell   Mathematics/304B Carnegie/Syracuse, N.Y. 13244-1150

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Here in the UK, to "Bonk" means to have sexual intercourse.  If it means the same thing in Canada, then it’s no wonder you were in bad shape by the time you got home.   ;o)

I think I’ve heard it used that way hereabouts too, though not as often as "boink", which itself isn’t that common. The context should make it clear in any case which is intended, unless it’s a sentence like "I don’t want to bonk before the end of the race". Might be an interesting finish line. — Brian P. Baresch Lawrence, Kansas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

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I have heard "Bonk" used in cycling circles a lot in the UK Steve Here in the UK, to "Bonk" means to have sexual intercourse.  If it means the same thing in Canada, then it’s no wonder you were in bad shape by the time you got home.   ;o) LOL! What term do you use when you run out of glycogen and get lightheaded and weak from lack of blood sugar for your brain? Peter

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Macelroy, Please give a reference for your assertion and more specifics.  On the basis of my experience of racing distances from a mile to 100 miles, and training up to 35 miles at a time, Bob Glover is right. It is important to train the body to maximize it’s ability to burn fat for long runs, but running the body to deplete it of all glycogen stores risks damage to muscles and kidneys.  It won’t help your training at all. Todd – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – He’s Wrong. If you are out for a hike and not for serious training then by all means use carbo replacement. But as a person who wants to improve his conditioning and run faster, you need to have depletions and the carbo replacement during a run will keep you from getting as depleted as you should be. Just remember that depletions are a natural part of the improvement process. After your hard run is over is the time to replace carbohydrates and run lightly to refuel. What a beautiful day. If you are in Ottawa, stop reading and go run if you havn’t done so already. It was 13C when I went out for my longer run this morning. A perfect day. I felt good so I decided to bump the distance a little (usually 14km) to about 18kms. Maybe a bit too much, but I am not increasing the weekday runs do to time. I only actually have measured the first 5kms which passed at about 24mins (fastest 10k ~46mins). At around 7kms there is a fountain and much to my chagrin it was shutdown and boarded up for winter, so much for hydration and the 2  power gels in my pocket. I can’t seem to eat before my run and knowing there  was water on this route I didn’t super hydrate before leaving home. Problem 1. It seems I really can’t go much slower, It just feels really awkward. I wear a HRM/stopwatch on every run. 2 out of 3 runs I am trying to PR my route. Yes I realize this may not be recommened, but thats me. The point being my pace while going 18kms did not slow significantly, at least not initially. Problem 2. After about 15kms I started to lose energy drastically.I bonked. Legs were complete rubber-lead. I had nothing in the tank. The last 3k were hideous. The last measured 5 k took ~27 grueling minutes.I fell into my apartment drank a glass of water and collapsed against a wall near my fridge with jug of OJ and a banana until I could move again. Argh! It seems I have to figure out how to carry water on the run. Thats my entertainment for the day. Peter Good story, Peter. It’s about 64 degrees F where I’m at – 75% humidity. It’s very sunny and clear.  I may go for a run later in the afternoon, but it will be an easy one if I do, because the past two days have been tempo runs over a 14 mile route. Of course, my tempo runs would be considered plodding by others. I never have fountains where I run, so I take a 16oz bottle of Gatorade on all runs longer than an hour. BTW, I want to add that the Gatorade is not necessarily for battling ‘heat’, but more for carb replacement on the run.  This is another thing recommended by Bob Glover in the latest addition of "The Competitive Runner’s Handbook" (Chapter 21 – Long -run tips). Before you buy.

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He’s Wrong. If you are out for a hike and not for serious training then by all means use carbo replacement. But as a person who wants to improve his conditioning and run faster, you need to have depletions and the carbo replacement during a run will keep you from getting as depleted as you should be. Just remember that depletions are a natural part of the improvement process. After your hard run is over is the time to replace carbohydrates and run lightly to refuel. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What a beautiful day. If you are in Ottawa, stop reading and go run if you havn’t done so already. It was 13C when I went out for my longer run this morning. A perfect day. I felt good so I decided to bump the distance a little (usually 14km) to about 18kms. Maybe a bit too much, but I am not increasing the weekday runs do to time. I only actually have measured the first 5kms which passed at about 24mins (fastest 10k ~46mins). At around 7kms there is a fountain and much to my chagrin it was shutdown and boarded up for winter, so much for hydration and the 2  power gels in my pocket. I can’t seem to eat before my run and knowing there  was water on this route I didn’t super hydrate before leaving home. Problem 1. It seems I really can’t go much slower, It just feels really awkward. I wear a HRM/stopwatch on every run. 2 out of 3 runs I am trying to PR my route. Yes I realize this may not be recommened, but thats me. The point being my pace while going 18kms did not slow significantly, at least not initially. Problem 2. After about 15kms I started to lose energy drastically.I bonked. Legs were complete rubber-lead. I had nothing in the tank. The last 3k were hideous. The last measured 5 k took ~27 grueling minutes.I fell into my apartment drank a glass of water and collapsed against a wall near my fridge with jug of OJ and a banana until I could move again. Argh! It seems I have to figure out how to carry water on the run. Thats my entertainment for the day. Peter Good story, Peter. It’s about 64 degrees F where I’m at – 75% humidity. It’s very sunny and clear.  I may go for a run later in the afternoon, but it will be an easy one if I do, because the past two days have been tempo runs over a 14 mile route. Of course, my tempo runs would be considered plodding by others. I never have fountains where I run, so I take a 16oz bottle of Gatorade on all runs longer than an hour. BTW, I want to add that the Gatorade is not necessarily for battling ‘heat’, but more for carb replacement on the run.  This is another thing recommended by Bob Glover in the latest addition of "The Competitive Runner’s Handbook" (Chapter 21 – Long -run tips).

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Here in the UK, to "Bonk" means to have sexual intercourse. If it means the same thing in Canada, then it’s no wonder you were in bad shape by the time you got home. LOL! What term do you use when you run out of glycogen and get lightheaded and weak from lack of blood sugar for your brain?

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Here in the UK, to "Bonk" means to have sexual intercourse

It means the same thing in aussie too!! made me laugh as well t

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Ah… That’s why I got a strange reaction from a Brit a few months ago when I used that word in a running context! Of course, I asked what "bonk" might mean in the UK, but I didn’t get an answer. Until today, that is… Thanks Daniel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here in the UK, to "Bonk" means to have sexual intercourse.  If it means the same thing in Canada, then it’s no wonder you were in bad shape by the time you got home.   ;o)

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Here in the UK, to "Bonk" means to have sexual intercourse.  If it means the same thing in Canada, then it’s no wonder you were in bad shape by the time you got home.   ;o) LOL!

I was also surprised how the americans mixed up the words. Bonking is one of the words I have picked up long ago from the english language. What term do you use when you run out of glycogen and get lightheaded and weak from lack of blood sugar for your brain?

In Denmark there is "hitting the wall", which is used mostly in raltion to marathon. For other runs we use "going cold".

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   You should be capable of going 2 hours without any fluids in that cooler temperature.

There seems to be a pretty large variation in what amount of fluid intake will make a person feel good. I have had many of my better running sessions/competitions where I have been slightly overdressed, and thus sweathing more than normal. I am also usually one of the last persons to feel cold at any time (not when running), which prbably also will have as a result that I will need more sweath to get rid of heat ? One thing I have noticed lately is, that my first urge when coming home from a run usually is food instead of fluid. I know I should stop eating altogether if you ask macelroy, but I am not. I expect to lose 10 lbs over the next 6 months training for my first marathon, and then I will be thin enough. Right now I am at 178 cm = 70 inches, and 79 kg/174 lbs – This barely places me in the normal category when it comes to BMI.. But I am built with a stronger / wider bone structure than most.

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After about 15kms I started to lose energy drastically.I bonked. Legs were complete rubber-lead. I had nothing in the tank. The last 3k  were hideous. The last measured 5 k took ~27 grueling minutes.I fell into my  apartment drank a glass of water and collapsed against a wall near my fridge with jug of OJ and a banana until I could move again.

Here in the UK, to "Bonk" means to have sexual intercourse.  If it means the same thing in Canada, then it’s no wonder you were in bad shape by the time you got home.   ;o)

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Here in the UK, to "Bonk" means to have sexual intercourse.  If it means the same thing in Canada, then it’s no wonder you were in bad shape by the time you got home.   ;o)

LOL! What term do you use when you run out of glycogen and get lightheaded and weak from lack of blood sugar for your brain? Peter

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   You should be capable of going 2 hours without any fluids in that cooler temperature. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What a beautiful day. If you are in Ottawa, stop reading and go run if you havn’t done so already. It was 13C when I went out for my longer run this morning. A perfect day. I felt good so I decided to bump the distance a little (usually 14km) to about 18kms. Maybe a bit too much, but I am not increasing the weekday runs do to time. I only actually have measured the first 5kms which passed at about 24mins (fastest 10k ~46mins). At around 7kms there is a fountain and much to my chagrin it was shutdown and boarded up for winter, so much for hydration and the 2  power gels in my pocket. I can’t seem to eat before my run and knowing there  was water on this route I didn’t super hydrate before leaving home. Problem 1. It seems I really can’t go much slower, It just feels really awkward. I wear a HRM/stopwatch on every run. 2 out of 3 runs I am trying to PR my route. Yes I realize this may not be recommened, but thats me. The point being my pace while going 18kms did not slow significantly, at least not initially. Problem 2. After about 15kms I started to lose energy drastically.I bonked. Legs were complete rubber-lead. I had nothing in the tank. The last 3k were hideous. The last measured 5 k took ~27 grueling minutes.I fell into my apartment drank a glass of water and collapsed against a wall near my fridge with jug of OJ and a banana until I could move again. Argh! It seems I have to figure out how to carry water on the run. :- ) Thats my entertainment for the day. Peter Good story, Peter. It’s about 64 degrees F where I’m at – 75% humidity. It’s very sunny and clear.  I may go for a run later in the afternoon, but it will be an easy one if I do, because the past two days have been tempo runs over a 14 mile route. Of course, my tempo runs would be considered plodding by others. I never have fountains where I run, so I take a 16oz bottle of Gatorade on all runs longer than an hour.

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What a beautiful day. If you are in Ottawa, stop reading and go run if you havn’t done so already. It was 13C when I went out for my longer run this morning. A perfect day. I felt good so I decided to bump the distance a little (usually 14km) to about 18kms. Maybe a bit too much, but I am not increasing the weekday runs do to time. I only actually have measured the first 5kms which passed at about 24mins (fastest 10k ~46mins). At around 7kms there is a fountain and much to my chagrin it was shutdown and boarded up for winter, so much for hydration and the 2  power gels in my pocket. I can’t seem to eat  before my run and knowing there  was water on this route I didn’t super hydrate before leaving home. Problem 1. It seems I really can’t go much slower, It just feels really awkward. I wear a HRM/stopwatch on every run. 2 out of 3 runs I am trying to PR my route. Yes I realize this may not be recommened, but thats me. The point being my pace while going 18kms did not slow significantly, at least not initially. Problem 2. After about 15kms I started to lose energy drastically.I bonked. Legs were complete rubber-lead. I had nothing in the tank. The last 3k  were hideous. The last measured 5 k took ~27 grueling minutes.I fell into my  apartment drank a glass of water and collapsed against a wall near my fridge with jug of OJ and a banana until I could move again. Argh! It seems I have to figure out how to carry water on the run. Thats my entertainment for the day. Peter

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I’m in Ottawa. However, I’ve gone running yesterday and I’m not sure I should have. But yesterday it was 18C and just as gorgeous. It’s tempting to go again, though! The forecast is the same for tomorrow except for 10C temp. I will go tomorrow for sure… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What a beautiful day. If you are in Ottawa, stop reading and go run if you havn’t done so already. It was 13C when I went out for my longer run this morning. A perfect day. I felt good so I decided to bump the distance a little (usually 14km) to about 18kms. Maybe a bit too much, but I am not increasing the weekday runs do to time. I only actually have measured the first 5kms which passed at about 24mins (fastest 10k ~46mins). At around 7kms there is a fountain and much to my chagrin it was shutdown and boarded up for winter, so much for hydration and the 2  power gels in my pocket. I can’t seem to eat  before my run and knowing there  was water on this route I didn’t super hydrate before leaving home. Problem 1. It seems I really can’t go much slower, It just feels really awkward. I wear a HRM/stopwatch on every run. 2 out of 3 runs I am trying to PR my route. Yes I realize this may not be recommened, but thats me. The point being my pace while going 18kms did not slow significantly, at least not initially. Problem 2. After about 15kms I started to lose energy drastically.I bonked. Legs were complete rubber-lead. I had nothing in the tank. The last 3k  were hideous. The last measured 5 k took ~27 grueling minutes.I fell into my  apartment drank a glass of water and collapsed against a wall near my fridge with jug of OJ and a banana until I could move again. Argh! It seems I have to figure out how to carry water on the run. Thats my entertainment for the day. Peter

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  The water and would have made ZERO difference. You went out there and depleted yourself which is what you are supposed to do. You ran out of gas a little early. It happens. Now take an easy run, get yourself refueled, and the next time you go out on such a run you’ll be stronger. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What a beautiful day. If you are in Ottawa, stop reading and go run if you havn’t done so already. It was 13C when I went out for my longer run this morning. A perfect day. I felt good so I decided to bump the distance a little (usually 14km) to about 18kms. Maybe a bit too much, but I am not increasing the weekday runs do to time. I only actually have measured the first 5kms which passed at about 24mins (fastest 10k ~46mins). At around 7kms there is a fountain and much to my chagrin it was shutdown and boarded up for winter, so much for hydration and the 2  power gels in my pocket. I can’t seem to eat  before my run and knowing there  was water on this route I didn’t super hydrate before leaving home. Problem 1. It seems I really can’t go much slower, It just feels really awkward. I wear a HRM/stopwatch on every run. 2 out of 3 runs I am trying to PR my route. Yes I realize this may not be recommened, but thats me. The point being my pace while going 18kms did not slow significantly, at least not initially. Problem 2. After about 15kms I started to lose energy drastically.I bonked. Legs were complete rubber-lead. I had nothing in the tank. The last 3k were hideous. The last measured 5 k took ~27 grueling minutes.I fell into my  apartment drank a glass of water and collapsed against a wall near my fridge with jug of OJ and a banana until I could move again. Argh! It seems I have to figure out how to carry water on the run. Thats my entertainment for the day. Peter

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