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toxins as in what?, unload as in how?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see    the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]] Hi     Predominantly i am a cyclist, but also enjoy cross country running also. I have been recovering for months with an ankle injuury, so therefore not as active as i used to be. I used to run for miles & all was ok.      My mother & grandmother, bith had this problem of circulation & itching, especially when getting back into walking, running. Too many toxins in the body, only accelerated all the more by streneous physical activity. Best unload prior to major efforts.

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Very useful, thanks, i guess it’s just a case of running through the "itch"barrier!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see    the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]] Hi     Predominantly i am a cyclist, but also enjoy cross country running also. I have been recovering for months with an ankle injuury, so therefore not as active as i used to be. I used to run for miles & all was ok.      My mother & grandmother, bith had this problem of circulation & itching, especially when getting back into walking, running. The symptoms are, that when i start to jog, when my body starts to get hot, my sides, stomach, buttock & thighs & feet begin to go red & itch & i get nauseous, the urge to scratch is terrible & end up with severe bruising through scratching, nail marks! This happens mostly when going down hill. This doesn’t happen at all in cycling. This feeling is terrible, but it seems to subside the more i run, not more distance, but the more short distances regularly. For example, before i went away to work abroad, i was jogging 3 miles a night to get fit & this never affected me! Does anyone have an explination for this! Thanks Gary Gary, Hope this post from a few years ago helps: Ozzie I’ve been back into training about 8 weeks after break of a few months. Each morning when I get up I get really itchy legs all over for a few minutes – it then goes away – This has happened B4 in similar circumstances – I doubt it’s any allergy type of thing – like to changes in soap powder and all that stuff. I’s damned annoyying – Any Ideas? Robin, It is normal when coming back to running especially among women…and probably if you’re in a colder climate.  As the blood vessels dilate in your peripheral circulatory system, the blood flowing through the vessels not yet used to being dialated give one the itchy feeling.  You can see in some women that the legs get splotchy (medical term).  The feeling is one of having to stop and really scratch the itch or that the itch can be so intense that it feels like one is breaking out in hives. Often at that point one becomes worried and stops running to diminish the itchy feeling. Worked through the feeling with one women a number of years ago.  Because of the itchiness, the doctor prescribed an antihistimine for the itchiness. Which only prolonged her problem and pushed the natural process of the vessels dilating and the itchiness going away.  At mile 1 the itchiness started and she wanted to stop.  We continue slowly for about 3 more miles. At mile 3 of the 4, the vessels dilated and the itchiness went away.  It can be irritating…and in her case it was so intense that she would stop each time it got that intense, afraid that she wouldn’t be able to continue and that the intchiness would increase proportionately.  So it prolonged the breakthrough. For many who believe that sweating is unladylike, sweating can be a learned reflex.  You see some people whose face gets beet red.  Once they get to the breakthrough point, their face finally begins to sweat…usually with a few beads of sweat appearing on the nose and then the face breaks into a sweat, the water evaporates and cools the blood flowing through the vessels….and the flush disappears. — In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer-rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic,  est. 1975

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you would release them more through running.  then they re-enter through your thighs.

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[[ This message was both posted and mailed: see    the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]] Hi     Predominantly i am a cyclist, but also enjoy cross country running also. I have been recovering for months with an ankle injuury, so therefore not as active as i used to be. I used to run for miles & all was ok.      My mother & grandmother, bith had this problem of circulation & itching, especially when getting back into walking, running.

Too many toxins in the body, only accelerated all the more by streneous physical activity. Best unload prior to major efforts.

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Hi     Predominantly i am a cyclist, but also enjoy cross country running also. I have been recovering for months with an ankle injuury, so therefore not as active as i used to be. I used to run for miles & all was ok.      My mother & grandmother, bith had this problem of circulation & itching, especially when getting back into walking, running. The symptoms are, that when i start to jog, when my body starts to get hot, my sides, stomach, buttock & thighs & feet begin to go red & itch & i get nauseous, the urge to scratch is terrible & end up with severe bruising through scratching, nail marks! This happens mostly when going down hill. This doesn’t happen at all in cycling. This feeling is terrible, but it seems to subside the more i run, not more distance, but the more short distances regularly. For example, before i went away to work abroad, i was jogging 3 miles a night to get fit & this never affected me! Does anyone have an explination for this! Thanks Gary

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The symptoms are, that when i start to jog, when my body starts to get hot, my sides, stomach, buttock & thighs & feet begin to go red & itch & i get nauseous, the urge to scratch is terrible & end up with severe bruising through scratching, nail marks!

You might want to google "exercise induced urticaria OR hives".  There are probably also threads in this ng about this, too.  Here’s a URL to get you started: http://www.aafp.org/afp/20011015/1367.html I developed hives five or ten minutes after running four times over a period of a couple years, the last two times only a couple weeks apart.  Finally (at my goodwife’s urging), I went to an allergist, who tested me for food allergies (40 pinpricks for 40 foods).  I turned out to have (developed) an allergy to beef and tomatoes–and could correlate that with what I had eaten the last two times I got hives.  (I can’t recall what I ate the other times.) Since then, no beef or tomatoes six hours before running, and I’ve not had any recurrences (except once, when I ate two large double cheeseburgers _without_ exercising afterwards). Very odd–I’ve never had any allergies before, nor was I (apparently) allergic to either up until a few years ago.  Worse, I love tomatoes and beef… BTW, from what I’ve read, getting hives _while_ running (your case) is much more common than getting them _after_ running (my case). Oh, and I now carry a beesting kit in the car, in case I need it after a run.  Allergic reactions can be deadly.     Mike McSwell

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Strongyloides, I bet

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But i don’t get it through weight training or cycling, just running!

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[[ This message was both posted and mailed: see    the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]] – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi     Predominantly i am a cyclist, but also enjoy cross country running also. I have been recovering for months with an ankle injuury, so therefore not as active as i used to be. I used to run for miles & all was ok.      My mother & grandmother, bith had this problem of circulation & itching, especially when getting back into walking, running. The symptoms are, that when i start to jog, when my body starts to get hot, my sides, stomach, buttock & thighs & feet begin to go red & itch & i get nauseous, the urge to scratch is terrible & end up with severe bruising through scratching, nail marks! This happens mostly when going down hill. This doesn’t happen at all in cycling. This feeling is terrible, but it seems to subside the more i run, not more distance, but the more short distances regularly. For example, before i went away to work abroad, i was jogging 3 miles a night to get fit & this never affected me! Does anyone have an explination for this! Thanks Gary

Gary, Hope this post from a few years ago helps: Ozzie I’ve been back into training about 8 weeks after break of a few months. Each morning when I get up I get really itchy legs all over for a few minutes – it then goes away – This has happened B4 in similar circumstances – I doubt it’s any allergy type of thing – like to changes in soap powder and all that stuff. I’s damned annoyying – Any Ideas?

Robin, It is normal when coming back to running especially among women…and probably if you’re in a colder climate.  As the blood vessels dilate in your peripheral circulatory system, the blood flowing through the vessels not yet used to being dialated give one the itchy feeling.  You can see in some women that the legs get splotchy (medical term).  The feeling is one of having to stop and really scratch the itch or that the itch can be so intense that it feels like one is breaking out in hives. Often at that point one becomes worried and stops running to diminish the itchy feeling. Worked through the feeling with one women a number of years ago.  Because of the itchiness, the doctor prescribed an antihistimine for the itchiness. Which only prolonged her problem and pushed the natural process of the vessels dilating and the itchiness going away.  At mile 1 the itchiness started and she wanted to stop.  We continue slowly for about 3 more miles. At mile 3 of the 4, the vessels dilated and the itchiness went away.  It can be irritating…and in her case it was so intense that she would stop each time it got that intense, afraid that she wouldn’t be able to continue and that the intchiness would increase proportionately.  So it prolonged the breakthrough. For many who believe that sweating is unladylike, sweating can be a learned reflex.  You see some people whose face gets beet red.  Once they get to the breakthrough point, their face finally begins to sweat…usually with a few beads of sweat appearing on the nose and then the face breaks into a sweat, the water evaporates and cools the blood flowing through the vessels….and the flush disappears. — In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer-rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic,  est. 1975

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