GW Bush ends running career

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The NY times said the Prez has developed severe knee pain while running. He switched to an elliptical trainer and is looking aknee surgery.

He was never a distance runner to begin with, just a 20 minute a day jogger.

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MIZUNO ___ You are kidding! No Way. Amazing. I became a Mizuno convert in ‘03. I think it’s amazing….because….you gotta "look for" Mizunos in general. Most

running shops don’t even carry them. It’s not like you’re going to walk into a typical running shop and come out with Mizunos on. That’s rare. Ascis and NB control most of the retail shelf space in running shops. Nike muscles in and gets its space…some times you can find scraps left for Brooks and Saucony…..but it’s not common at all to see a pair of Mizunos on

a rack. It’s just not a shoe you stumble upon or have marketed to death to you. A podiatrist must have tipped of Bush to get into these shoes… MIZUNOs are readily available here in Southern California, at the major chains. Bush has the equivalent of a running coach who put him onto Mizunos. The last time I noticed, he was wearing Mizuno Creations. These MIZUNO shoes do seem well made and well designed (good uppers, breathable, lightweight, carefully executed), but I found the cushioning a little stiff for my weight (160-165) — maybe it’s that plastic "wave" thing? — and so I generally run in other pairs. In the future I may try on some different Mizuno models to see if the density of the cushioning material varies from model to model.

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I wonder what is more important obstacle in running: age or number of years. GW has been running since 1972. I’ve been running seasonally since 1969 and year-round since 1977. I now notice a decline and some sore knees some of the time. I know very few people who’ve been doing it this length of time.

Since 1968 and still optimistic. From talking to exrunners, the knees have to be the most frequent reason. Combination of lack of understanding, running through pain, running on pavement, lack of recovery plan. We want to step out the door almost every day and run roads for the same distance with no other investment. Past injuries overcome: PFS/Chondr?, AT, MTSS, ITBS, PF, Anter. Tib, ankle spr., ham tear, sciatica?, calf tear, sore quad, …, not all from just running however.

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…ya know who is a real runner ….Edwards…the democratic guy from s.c. i believe…..he does 40 miles/week.

Nah, everyone knows that 45 miles per week is the minimum to be considered a real runner. **ducks as things come flyin’ this way.

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I wonder what is more important obstacle in running: age or number of years.

Noakes has a chart that shows after age 30 there is a steady decline. I would guess age. GW has been running since 1972. I’ve been running seasonally since 1969 and year-round since 1977. I now notice a decline and some sore knees some of the time.

Knock on wood I havn’t had knee or joint problems but I have lots of running friends in my age group that are battling injuries. They are trying to maintain the same level of training as if they were in their 40’s and mother nature takes exception when not given rest breaks. Some of it is our parents. — Doug Freese "Caveat Lector"

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FWIW, some various NB pairs I have in the house: -NB 763s say Made in USA of Domestic and Imported Materials -NB 764s say Made in USA of Imported Materials -NB 831s say Made in China -NB 705 trail shoes say Made in China – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – New Balance running shoes are mostly made (assembled, anyhow) in the U.S. — are they? i know it varies from shoe model to shoe model….seems most of the models i buy (high end more expensive models & their racing flats) have always been made in china. i keep hearing this about nb but it seems to me the vast majority of their shoes are made in china completely…and not made in china & assembled in the usa. i could be wrong. As I said in response to Donovan’s post, the NB shoes I’ve checked lately (880s and 1022s) have been made in USA. I haven’t looked at the whole line. — Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing and proofreading If you’re going through hell, keep going. –Winston Churchill

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says… No idea where they get them, since most stores don’t carry them. The only retail store I know of in NY that have most of the Mizuno line is Paragon. Even the running stores don’t seem to have them.

The last time I bought shoes was from a Finish Line in the local mall. Two sales guys actually tried to bully me into buying Mizunos, but I bought Asics 2080’s instead. They were incredulous. At the time I figured that maybe they simply made more money on the Mizuno, but maybe they were onto something. -Fountainhead

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As I said in response to Donovan’s post, the NB shoes I’ve checked lately (880s and 1022s) have been made in USA. I haven’t looked at the whole line. — Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing and proofreading If you’re going through hell, keep going. –Winston Churchill

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No they’re not. Look at the labels some time — nearly all of their shoes say "made in China". What you’re saying is AFAIK only true of the overpriced yet mediocre 1300/1700/2000 series.

I just looked at the label of an 880 the other day: "Made in USA". Same for my old 1022s that just finally wore out. The woman at the running store told me she’s heard they’re trying to get more of their running shoe operation back into the U.S. Since she actually has dealings with shoe companies and distributors I’m wary of dismissing what she says out of hand; but in any case the labels speak for themselves. Saucony was another made-in-USA holdout for a while, but they’ve pretty much given up. — Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing and proofreading If you’re going through hell, keep going. –Winston Churchill

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MIZUNO ___ You are kidding! No Way. Amazing. I became a Mizuno convert in ‘03. I think it’s amazing….because….you gotta "look for" Mizunos in general.

FWIW … having attended these running classes and spent some time with club members (where you can see what people train in), it seems that Mizuno trainers are reasonably popular among serious runners. No idea where they get them, since most stores don’t carry them. The only retail store I know of in NY that have most of the Mizuno line is Paragon. Even the running stores don’t seem to have them. Cheers, — Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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in new hampshire he gave a speech on american employment, etc…..jobs going to india, etc…..and then proceeded to go to a sporting goods store and bout a pair of ascis 2080 shoes to run in. someone in the press core asked him why he was buying a pair of shoes by a japanese company and not an american company…..Edwards grinned and new he kind of was caught in an ackward moment/incident. this happend in concord, nh. i guess most are made in china anyway… New Balance running shoes are mostly made (assembled, anyhow) in the U.S.

No they’re not. Look at the labels some time — nearly all of their shoes say "made in China". What you’re saying is AFAIK only true of the overpriced yet mediocre 1300/1700/2000 series. Cheers, — Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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I think GW should ride a mountain bike after he recoveries from surgery, That would be cool seeing him and all his others services plus on a bike. they could lose reporters and others bikes on off trails. ETttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt just my 2 cent. I don’t need you rides are good. 4 cans to 20 in day time ride. back wheel guts gave out. new one this a.m. on,works good. metal scrape…..anyways. 4 inch snow. if one use one night vision or the outer part of eye and not focus on a can or picture a fist in front of vision. .in day the inside part of eye can fcus and see sees. at night the outside of center sees. A little better vision at night. butt headlights. well that is that…there is no cans…I ride 1 miles and not fine one some times. it take 3 or 4 days just to get 3 bucks some imes. not just were I ride to. I go placeI not been and zero there too.so it is not just me…… the roughest get up at 5, the traffic get heavy at 6. to sneak and peek 4 is best.dogs sleep at 3 to 4 , 3 to 5 is the best open up outfit and well live. The can man. there is very little out there….I see on news and money shows that times are good and money id is better….I don’t no. I sweare I can not get any…..I try..I don’t care because after 57 weeks now with out a pay check I can’t feel anymore to care……again I am not compaining. I am glad you all can…… I to survive and a backpack, hunter orange outfit, scarfs and boots. helmet hat , and fun dime…….it is cold and snow here… Merry The real bike rider. I ride to live. not ride to train…… Thats the different. GW leaders the country. You did and doing good…….Hang in there your o.k. If he stops running and gore don’t do and micky dee bill stop too. and I still run later. I guest it well be true that money do make you pussys.

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wonder what shoe bush runs in. anyone know?

MIZUNO

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<GW Bush ends running career Seems to be mostly true, although the following story doesn’t really say he has "ended his running career." It does sound as if he is not running right now. http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAVN99YCOD.html

I guess this would be an inappropriate time to ask how many Joe Schmoes’ company-paid insurance plan would cover an MRI to determine the cause of "occasional" knee pain when running? — Dirk (Leverage this information, already, you wussy-boy Democrats!) ** "I think mostly we just grew up and realized that there really wasn’t a cosmic Santa Claus out there that was prepared to do our bidding every time we send off some hair-brained prayer. If god were available to answer my prayers, all conservatives would be in big trouble because their faces would be some shade of orange and they would be completely infertile and would have to eat standing up because of the tail protruding from their rear end." –kstahl explains it all for you **

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MIZUNO ___ You are kidding! No Way. Amazing. I became a Mizuno convert in ‘03. I think it’s amazing….because….you gotta "look for" Mizunos in general. Most running shops don’t even carry them. It’s not like you’re going to walk into a typical running shop and come out with Mizunos on. That’s rare. Ascis and NB control most of the retail shelf space in running shops. Nike muscles in and gets its space…some times you can find scraps left for Brooks and Saucony…..but it’s not common at all to see a pair of Mizunos on a rack. It’s just not a shoe you stumble upon or have marketed to death to you. A podiatrist must have tipped of Bush to get into these shoes…

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Maybe he should do something else like lift weights. Just a thought.

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From your lightning-like response, might we infer you have some "first hand" experience with this phenomenon?

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New Balance running shoes are mostly made (assembled, anyhow) in the U.S. — are they? i know it varies from shoe model to shoe model….seems most of the models i buy (high end more expensive models & their racing flats) have always been made in china. i keep hearing this about nb but it seems to me the vast majority of their shoes are made in china completely…and not made in china & assembled in the usa. i could be wrong. having spent a lot of time in washington dc…i know politicians go out of their way to drive american branded cars….wonder what shoe bush runs in. anyone know? if i was a politician i suppose i would go out of my way to run in nb shoes to at least present a corporate "front"…despite it’s origin of manufacture

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His knees aren’t shot from jogging. They’re shot from constantly kneeling in front of Tony Blair, trying to keep "the coalition" from falling apart.

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New Balance running shoes are mostly made (assembled, anyhow) in the U.S. He should be more careful when he’s running for president. — Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing and proofreading If you’re going through hell, keep going. –Winston Churchill

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That link should be added to the "injuries" thread — "Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

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…ya know who is a real runner ….Edwards…the democratic guy from s.c. i believe…..he does 40 miles/week. in new hampshire he gave a speech on american employment, etc…..jobs going to india, etc…..and then proceeded to go to a sporting goods store and bout a pair of ascis 2080 shoes to run in. someone in the press core asked him why he was buying a pair of shoes by a japanese company and not an american company…..Edwards grinned and new he kind of was caught in an ackward moment/incident. this happend in concord, nh. i guess most are made in china anyway…

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The NY times said the Prez has developed severe knee pain while running. He switched to an elliptical trainer and is looking aknee surgery.

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