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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – odd thing has been going on since I acquired the dog and started my daily jogs with her.   I’ve had back pain – lower and upper. I think the upper is from the way I hold my shoulders when jogging – I tend to scrunch them forward – I’m trying to be more conscious of form and correct that.   It hasn’t helped my pinched nerve under the shoulder blade – so I’m using my pink dumbells for shoulder work and laying low on the upper body weights. But – I’ve also had lower back pain pick up.   Today I’m at a coworkers desk to fix a setting on his PC.  Instead of sitting, I fix it from a standing position, which requires leaning over to get to the keyboard and mouse.   When I stand up afterwards, my back aches and I don’t want to stand.   This is common in occurance.  It even hurts at night while I sleep – which makes me not sleep well – and one grumpy person overall. And idea of what the cause is or a fix for it?

Could it be that your shoulders are in a different position now that you’re holding onto a leash?  Or the strain put on your shoulders and upper back from the pulling on your body that the dog causes?  Maybe it’s just a matter of needing time for your body to compensate from the different stresses and strains put onto your body from the addition of the dog during jogging. — Andrew. 265/216/180 ~ GO LEAFS GO ~

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odd thing has been going on since I acquired the dog and started my daily jogs with her.   I’ve had back pain – lower and upper. I think the upper is from the way I hold my shoulders when jogging – I tend to scrunch them forward – I’m trying to be more conscious of form and correct that.   It hasn’t helped my pinched nerve under the shoulder blade – so I’m using my pink dumbells for shoulder work and laying low on the upper body weights. But – I’ve also had lower back pain pick up.   Today I’m at a coworkers desk to fix a setting on his PC.  Instead of sitting, I fix it from a standing position, which requires leaning over to get to the keyboard and mouse.   When I stand up afterwards, my back aches and I don’t want to stand.   This is common in occurance.  It even hurts at night while I sleep – which makes me not sleep well – and one grumpy person overall. And idea of what the cause is or a fix for it?

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Try this site, jay jay.  Maybe you’ll find an answer for your back pain here.  Running can be very hard on the lower back. http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_5/193.shtml

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could it be that your shoulders are in a different position now that you’re holding onto a leash?  Or the strain put on your shoulders and upper back from the pulling on your body that the dog causes?  Maybe it’s just a matter of needing time for your body to compensate from the different stresses and strains put onto your body from the addition of the dog during jogging. The first couple weeks we alternated alot of walking with small jogs – because she would pull.  But, now she doesn’t pull at all and her leash usually hangs pretty limp – so there isn’t any altering of shoulder stance there.  (that I’m consciously aware of – but I’ll think about that tonight when I’m walking her … if I’m up for it after the dentist hell this afternoon). Its the lower back that has me more concerned.  I get the pinched nerve flair ups in my upper back periodically – but I’ve never had this prolonged lower back pain before, and it started after I started regularly jogging with her (well – that would be regular jogging in general – as I didn’t do that before the dog).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – odd thing has been going on since I acquired the dog and started my daily jogs with her.   I’ve had back pain – lower and upper. I think the upper is from the way I hold my shoulders when jogging – I tend to scrunch them forward – I’m trying to be more conscious of form and correct that.   It hasn’t helped my pinched nerve under the shoulder blade – so I’m using my pink dumbells for shoulder work and laying low on the upper body weights. But – I’ve also had lower back pain pick up.   Today I’m at a coworkers desk to fix a setting on his PC.  Instead of sitting, I fix it from a standing position, which requires leaning over to get to the keyboard and mouse.   When I stand up afterwards, my back aches and I don’t want to stand.   This is common in occurance.  It even hurts at night while I sleep – which makes me not sleep well – and one grumpy person overall. And idea of what the cause is or a fix for it?

All I know is that running and I don’t get along.  It’s too taxing on me and my cardiovascular system, as well as my ankles and knees.  I can do all sorts of other activities, and can ski for hours, but running wears me out in a matter of minutes… determined

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i hope that if your pain continues, you will see your health professional for a "hand on" exam. you suspect the jogging? very likely! — read and post daily, it works! rosie BLESS AND PROTECT OUR TROOPS! http://www.redcross.org/services/afes/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – odd thing has been going on since I acquired the dog and started my daily jogs with her.   I’ve had back pain – lower and upper. I think the upper is from the way I hold my shoulders when jogging – I tend to scrunch them forward – I’m trying to be more conscious of form and correct that.   It hasn’t helped my pinched nerve under the shoulder blade – so I’m using my pink dumbells for shoulder work and laying low on the upper body weights. But – I’ve also had lower back pain pick up.   Today I’m at a coworkers desk to fix a setting on his PC.  Instead of sitting, I fix it from a standing position, which requires leaning over to get to the keyboard and mouse.   When I stand up afterwards, my back aches and I don’t want to stand.   This is common in occurance.  It even hurts at night while I sleep – which makes me not sleep well – and one grumpy person overall. And idea of what the cause is or a fix for it?

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Could it be that your shoulders are in a different position now that you’re holding onto a leash?  Or the strain put on your shoulders and upper back from the pulling on your body that the dog causes?  Maybe it’s just a matter of needing time for your body to compensate from the different stresses and strains put onto your body from the addition of the dog during

jogging. The first couple weeks we alternated alot of walking with small jogs – because she would pull.  But, now she doesn’t pull at all and her leash usually hangs pretty limp – so there isn’t any altering of shoulder stance there.  (that I’m consciously aware of – but I’ll think about that tonight when I’m walking her … if I’m up for it after the dentist hell this afternoon). Its the lower back that has me more concerned.  I get the pinched nerve flair ups in my upper back periodically – but I’ve never had this prolonged lower back pain before, and it started after I started regularly jogging with her (well – that would be regular jogging in general – as I didn’t do that before the dog).

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doctors prescription – pain pills and muscle relaxors – both of which cause drowsiness (read – for me – dead sleep for hours and grogginess when awake) for 2 weeks straight.   I don’t have 2 weeks of vacation to blow on that.

i hope that if your pain continues, you will see your health professional

for a "hand on" exam. you suspect the jogging? very likely! — read and post daily, it works! rosie BLESS AND PROTECT OUR TROOPS! http://www.redcross.org/services/afes/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – odd thing has been going on since I acquired the dog and started my daily jogs with her.   I’ve had back pain – lower and upper. I think the upper is from the way I hold my shoulders when jogging – I tend to scrunch them forward – I’m trying to be more conscious of form and correct that.   It hasn’t helped my pinched nerve under the shoulder blade – so I’m using my pink dumbells for shoulder work and laying low on the upper body weights. But – I’ve also had lower back pain pick up.   Today I’m at a coworkers desk to fix a setting on his PC.  Instead of sitting, I fix it from a standing position, which requires leaning over to get to the keyboard and mouse.   When I stand up afterwards, my back aches and I don’t want to stand.   This is common in occurance.  It even hurts at night while I sleep – which makes me not sleep well – and one grumpy person overall. And idea of what the cause is or a fix for it?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – doctors prescription – pain pills and muscle relaxors – both of which cause drowsiness (read – for me – dead sleep for hours and grogginess when awake) for 2 weeks straight.   I don’t have 2 weeks of vacation to blow on that. As Rosie suggested in another post….find a doctor who will provide another solution to the lower back pain.

All well and good – but how do you find them…. I’ve suffered from this pinched nerve thing for 5 yrs now – since my car accident.   And I’ve seen 3 or 4 different doctors abotu it and they all want to prescribe the same thing – Pain pills, anti inflamitories and muscle relaxors.   But, I can’t handle 2 weeks of being doped up like that and not able to think clearly enough to work.

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Its the lower back that has me more concerned.  I get the pinched nerve flair ups in my upper back periodically – but I’ve never had this prolonged lower back pain before, and it started after I started regularly jogging with her (well – that would be regular jogging in general – as I didn’t do that before the dog). You might try a new pair of running shoes.  Perhaps the ones you have are not the right shape to keep you in proper balance as you jog, or have lost some of their shock absorbing ability.

Shoes – good thought – had slipped my mind.  Maybe its time to trade in my Nike adiction for New Balance and see if a different brand will have a different effect.    Or, maybe going to straight running shoes instead of cross trainers like I usually wear would help too.  Although – I still alternate between a light jog and a walk with the dog. Also, while losing weight, your center of gravity will probably shift, causing different torso muscles to be used more or used less.

Loss of weight isn’t the problem – unless 5 lbs is enough to cause a major difference – and I don’t think it is.  But my weight has stuck pretty steady in a 5lb range for the past 5 months or so.

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Its the lower back that has me more concerned.  I get the pinched nerve flair ups in my upper back periodically – but I’ve never had this prolonged lower back pain before, and it started after I started regularly jogging with her (well – that would be regular jogging in general – as I didn’t do that before the dog).

You might try a new pair of running shoes.  Perhaps the ones you have are not the right shape to keep you in proper balance as you jog, or have lost some of their shock absorbing ability. Possibly, while trying to prevent hunching your shoulders, you might be sticking your butt out a bit, putting strain on the lower back, in which case you might try tucking your pelvis. Also, while losing weight, your center of gravity will probably shift, causing different torso muscles to be used more or used less. —                 "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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jay jay schrieb: [back pain]

Do you wear a heart rate monitor with a waistband? Silly as it sounds, that thing combined with my bra caused my back pain (somehow it was too tight). It took me over 6 months to finally find out the cause of the pain… Gabriela

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doctors prescription – pain pills and muscle relaxors – both of which cause drowsiness (read – for me – dead sleep for hours and grogginess when awake) for 2 weeks straight.   I don’t have 2 weeks of vacation to blow on that.

As Rosie suggested in another post….find a doctor who will provide another solution to the lower back pain.  I’ve suffered with lower back pain since I was a child due to a diving accident.  Very seldom does my doctor prescribe medication.  I do exercises to strengthen the lower back and heat to relieve the muscle spasms which usually occur with the pain. Over the years I’ve learned to avoid the activities that cause the pain. If you think the jogging is causing the problems then give it up for a few days to see if this helps.  Stretching exercises and a heating pad may help. Hope you find something that helps as I know how miserable lower back pain can be…. Beverly

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  Although – I still alternate between a light jog and a walk with the dog.

pain, your still running/jogging? Actually – no, I haven’t been running in over a week.   But – it is something I’d like to get back to – and I know chloe is certainly missing it too.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – doctors prescription – pain pills and muscle relaxors – both of which cause drowsiness (read – for me – dead sleep for hours and grogginess when awake) for 2 weeks straight.   I don’t have 2 weeks of vacation to blow on that. As Rosie suggested in another post….find a doctor who will provide another solution to the lower back pain. All well and good – but how do you find them…. I’ve suffered from this pinched nerve thing for 5 yrs now – since my car accident.   And I’ve seen 3 or 4 different doctors abotu it and they all want to prescribe the same thing – Pain pills, anti inflamitories and muscle relaxors.   But, I can’t handle 2 weeks of being doped up like that and not able to think clearly enough to work. You might want to try a physical therapist or sport rehabilitation specialist.  My doctor often sends me to a rehabilitation center where they do ultrasound treatments on the lower back.  It really helps to relieve the pain and muscle spasms.  I always feel 100% better afterward. I agree with you on the medication route.  I hate taking those damn muscle relaxers, etc. Beverly

I’ve never been a pill popper.  I generally end up throwing out prescriptions because I don’t finish them.  (lortab, hydrocodone, etc)…

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I’m a runner who also used to suffer from lower back pain, which was sometimes aggravated by running.  A couple of things that work for me is to run with ‘fresh’ running shoes and to try and find soft running surfaces, such as a dirt & grass trail instead of asphalt or concrete.  It is best not to run with shoes that have more than 500 miles on them, some people replace them after only 300 miles. The most dramatic difference for me, however, was brought about by stretching. About 6 months ago I started stretching my lower back diligently every day – it takes about 10 minutes.  I have my own ‘program’ which consists of about 15 or so different stretches, mostly from Anderson’s excellent book – ‘Stretching’. The majority of the stretches are for the lower back, but I also do some for the hamstrings, quads, calves & some ‘core’ muscles – everything works together.   Give it a try – but just be really careful not to ‘push’ – you can hurt yourself.   Bert Houston PS:  I run a lot, average of about 40 miles per week.  

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I agree with you on the medication route.  I hate taking those damn muscle relaxers, etc.

a really good and important time to take those muscle relaxers and pain pills if needed, is BEDTIME.  hopefully, you’ll sleep well, and the muscle relaxer can do its job! i’m glad to hear that you are not running/jogging and hope that you will be able to find some health professionals that can help you! check in with nearby gyms, and health clubs for recommendations also! rosie

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I’d ask my doctor, if I were you.  Personally, I used to run 8 miles a day, but I gave it up in favor up biking and the elliptical trainer because SOMETHING always hurt, and it was not "good" pain, when I ran: toes, heels, ankles, shins, hamstrings, knees, back… you name it, it ached from running.  If just walking is bothering it, that is a bigger problem: once again I’d defintely consult a doctor AL

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<snip Shoes – good thought – had slipped my mind.  Maybe its time to trade in my Nike adiction for New Balance and see if a different brand will have a different effect.    Or, maybe going to straight running shoes instead of cross trainers like I usually wear would help too.  Although – I still alternate between a light jog and a walk with the dog.

<snip I would advise going to a running store to buy your shoes.  Shoes are very important.  Unlike regular chain shoe stores or sport stores, a real running store will observe your stride and help you choose a shoe appropriate for you.  I, for example, am an overpronator.  They gave me motion control shoes.  I definately noticed a difference between those shoes and some cross trainers I had been using previously. — Ted Current quote: "It can’t be like this…" http://hometown.aol.com/rhwbullhead

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could it be that your shoulders are in a different position now that you’re holding onto a leash?  Or the strain put on your shoulders and upper back from the pulling on your body that the dog causes?  Maybe it’s just a matter of needing time for your body to compensate from the different stresses and strains put onto your body from the addition of the dog during jogging. The first couple weeks we alternated alot of walking with small jogs – because she would pull.  But, now she doesn’t pull at all and her leash usually hangs pretty limp – so there isn’t any altering of shoulder stance there.  (that I’m consciously aware of – but I’ll think about that tonight when I’m walking her … if I’m up for it after the dentist hell this afternoon). Its the lower back that has me more concerned.  I get the pinched nerve flair ups in my upper back periodically – but I’ve never had this prolonged lower back pain before, and it started after I started regularly jogging with her (well – that would be regular jogging in general – as I didn’t do that before the dog).

I used to suffer from lower back pain, but I found several back strengthening exercises and do them every morning. I’m at the point where I do them before I get out of bed without even thinking about it. I have not suffered from lower back pain since. I suggest doing some searches on back sites. Also, if you are getting upper back pain, it probably is from hunching over. Remember, you want to look ahead to where you’re going, not to where you are. : ) Martha – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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find a doctor who will prescribe rehabilitative therapy. massage, traction, etc. — read and post daily, it works! rosie BLESS AND PROTECT OUR TROOPS! http://www.redcross.org/services/afes/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – doctors prescription – pain pills and muscle relaxors – both of which cause drowsiness (read – for me – dead sleep for hours and grogginess when awake) for 2 weeks straight.   I don’t have 2 weeks of vacation to blow on that. i hope that if your pain continues, you will see your health professional for a "hand on" exam. you suspect the jogging? very likely! — read and post daily, it works! rosie BLESS AND PROTECT OUR TROOPS! http://www.redcross.org/services/afes/ odd thing has been going on since I acquired the dog and started my daily jogs with her.   I’ve had back pain – lower and upper. I think the upper is from the way I hold my shoulders when jogging – I tend to scrunch them forward – I’m trying to be more conscious of form and correct that.   It hasn’t helped my pinched nerve under the shoulder blade – so I’m using my pink dumbells for shoulder work and laying low on the upper body weights. But – I’ve also had lower back pain pick up.   Today I’m at a coworkers desk to fix a setting on his PC.  Instead of sitting, I fix it from a standing position, which requires leaning over to get to the keyboard and mouse.   When I stand up afterwards, my back aches and I don’t want to stand.   This is common in occurance.  It even hurts at night while I sleep – which makes me not sleep well – and one grumpy person overall. And idea of what the cause is or a fix for it?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – doctors prescription – pain pills and muscle relaxors – both of which cause drowsiness (read – for me – dead sleep for hours and grogginess when awake) for 2 weeks straight.   I don’t have 2 weeks of vacation to blow on that. As Rosie suggested in another post….find a doctor who will provide another solution to the lower back pain. All well and good – but how do you find them…. I’ve suffered from this pinched nerve thing for 5 yrs now – since my car accident.   And I’ve seen 3 or 4 different doctors abotu it and they all want to prescribe the same thing – Pain pills, anti inflamitories and muscle relaxors.   But, I can’t handle 2 weeks of being doped up like that and not able to think clearly enough to work.

You might want to try a physical therapist or sport rehabilitation specialist.  My doctor often sends me to a rehabilitation center where they do ultrasound treatments on the lower back.  It really helps to relieve the pain and muscle spasms.  I always feel 100% better afterward. I agree with you on the medication route.  I hate taking those damn muscle relaxers, etc. Beverly

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jj, you might want to talk to some physical therapists and see who they would recommend. also "pick the brains" of local massage therapists. they ALL know good docs! they ALL know the pill pushers too! — read and post daily, it works! rosie BLESS AND PROTECT OUR TROOPS! http://www.redcross.org/services/afes/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – doctors prescription – pain pills and muscle relaxors – both of which cause drowsiness (read – for me – dead sleep for hours and grogginess when awake) for 2 weeks straight.   I don’t have 2 weeks of vacation to blow on that. As Rosie suggested in another post….find a doctor who will provide another solution to the lower back pain. All well and good – but how do you find them…. I’ve suffered from this pinched nerve thing for 5 yrs now – since my car accident.   And I’ve seen 3 or 4 different doctors abotu it and they all want to prescribe the same thing – Pain pills, anti inflamitories and muscle relaxors.   But, I can’t handle 2 weeks of being doped up like that and not able to think clearly enough to work.

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  Although – I still alternate between a light jog and a walk with the dog.

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Try this site, jay jay.  Maybe you’ll find an answer for your back pain here.  Running can be very hard on the lower back.

No, only if you’re lower back isn’t strong enough. Running is excellent for the back. Martha – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_5/193.shtml Could it be that your shoulders are in a different position now that you’re holding onto a leash?  Or the strain put on your shoulders and upper back from the pulling on your body that the dog causes?  Maybe it’s just a matter of needing time for your body to compensate from the different stresses and strains put onto your body from the addition of the dog during jogging. The first couple weeks we alternated alot of walking with small jogs – because she would pull.  But, now she doesn’t pull at all and her leash usually hangs pretty limp – so there isn’t any altering of shoulder stance there.  (that I’m consciously aware of – but I’ll think about that tonight when I’m walking her … if I’m up for it after the dentist hell this afternoon). Its the lower back that has me more concerned.  I get the pinched nerve flair ups in my upper back periodically – but I’ve never had this prolonged lower back pain before, and it started after I started regularly jogging with her (well – that would be regular jogging in general – as I didn’t do that before the dog).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Its the lower back that has me more concerned.  I get the pinched nerve flair ups in my upper back periodically – but I’ve never had this prolonged lower back pain before, and it started after I started regularly jogging with her (well – that would be regular jogging in general – as I didn’t do that before the dog). You might try a new pair of running shoes.  Perhaps the ones you have are not the right shape to keep you in proper balance as you jog, or have lost some of their shock absorbing ability. Shoes – good thought – had slipped my mind.  Maybe its time to trade in my Nike adiction for New Balance and see if a different brand will have a different effect.    Or, maybe going to straight running shoes instead of cross trainers like I usually wear would help too.  Although – I still alternate between a light jog and a walk with the dog.

Ack! Nike, the worst running shoes. Asics are the best. Martha

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