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and was wondering if gels or other padding was any better.

WAY better! Anyways, after ~150 miles on them, I’m starting to notice some hip discomfort & some tenseness in my lower legs. It’s feeling as if there’s a lack of cushioning in the shoes as my foot hits the ground. Thus, I’m wondering what the Asic users are typically getting in their shoe life.

I get 1 to 2 years from a pair of 2090’s, at about 65 mpw. Or, perhaps more generally, what kind of mileage are you putting on your shoes? From above, 2000 miles in 8 shoes comes to about 250 miles each. Is that about what I should expect?

Maybe for you. I haven’t been keeping track for very long, but looking back, it appears that one Nike got about 500 miles

"looking back" indicates that possibly you were doing lower mileage then, and that’s why they lasted longer? Anyways that’s a fluke, no nikes I ever had outlasted, or even came CLOSE to Asics for longevity. while the next had to be returned after <100, and it’s replacement has failed after ~200 (I’ll have to call Nike again).

Now THAT is more typical of Nikes. Why even consider going back? I wouldn’t. As I stated, I’m at about 160 miles with the Gel1090s, and they seem to be at the replacement stage. I had hoped the gels would be a little better than the air bladders, but perhaps they aren’t.

They are. Look for other causes. Did you ramp up your mileage lately? I doubt the shoes have failed at this stage.

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Maybe this shoe just isn’t for you. Are you a runner that needs a stability shoe. The 1090s are in that category. If you are not in need of a stablility shoe, then that could also be part of your problem with these shoes

I meant to add a similar comment to my post.

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Unfortunately, I need to make these shoes work for at least a while longer.

Why? Can’t you return them? You’d be better off not running at all then running in the wrong shoes. You could do permanent damage. I’ve seen gel insoles at the local Nike store (well, ok, they do have 4 or 5 non-Nikes).

Then go with anything but nikes, you’ll get more shoe for your money with Asics, or just about any other brand. Nikes are overpriced GARBAGE!

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"Cushioned" shoes will be considered "Neutral" shoes. Asic’s best selling neutral shoe has traditionally been the Cumulus (although the new Nimbus has been a huge hit for them this summer). Nike’s best selling neutral shoe has traditionally been the Pegasus. This particular category gets blurred because some of the "Lightweight" shoes made by these companies could also be considered neutral (ex. for Nike the Skylon and new Zoom Miler).

Thank you Jim. From your’s and Phil’s replies, I finally had the brainstorm of looking for Asics website to read up on their lineup. From what I’ve read and heard, I do indeed have a neutral foot. I found a pair of the Cumulus and last year’s Nimbus at a G.I. Joe’s. Both felt pretty good though I preferred the Cumulus – plus the extra cost of the Nimbus is a deterrent. I may try the Landreth too if I can find them… I returned the Nikes, which I believe caused some ankle and knee pain for about 12 hours after a short 4 mile run, to running store #1. That store was out of my size in the Asics, so will return the 1090s to the second store and see if they have the other Asics. If not I’ll go to either Roadrunner or return to the sports/auto store where I found the one pair of Cumulus. Thanks again.

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i do, however, find that i have problems if i change shoes. apparently my muscles adapt and any change will cause knee problems, due to the slight shift in body weight, resulting from any pronation change in shoe.

I have the same problem when I change shoes.

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Anyways, I picked up a pair of Gel 1090s last month. No particular reason. It was discounted, and the end price was very similar to the discounted price I paid on the Nikes they were replacing. I’m getting a little tired of deflating air bags, and was wondering if gels or other padding was any better. Anyways, after ~150 miles on them, I’m starting to notice some hip discomfort & some tenseness in my lower legs. It’s feeling as if there’s a lack of cushioning in the shoes as my foot hits the ground. Thus, I’m wondering what the Asic users are typically getting in their shoe life. Or, perhaps more generally, what kind of mileage are you putting on your shoes? From above, 2000 miles in 8 shoes comes to about 250 miles each. Is that about what I should expect?

Yes, but I rotate about 3 or 4 shoes at any given time. I usually get around 400 to 500 miles in a pair of shoes. At 400 miles I start thinking about replacing them. Sometimes it’s difficult to tell if a shoe is too worn to wear for running. You will see some visible wear on the sole depending on your running style, but a lot of the wear will not be visible because it is due to recuced cushioning in the midsole (EVA). Obviously with as many shoes as I have I could probably go for a while without buying any more shoes. At least this is what my wife hopes. I haven’t been keeping track for very long, but looking back, it appears that one Nike got about 500 miles, while the next had to be returned after <100, and it’s replacement has failed after ~200 (I’ll have to call Nike again). As I stated, I’m at about 160 miles with the Gel1090s, and they seem to be at the replacement stage. I had hoped the gels would be a little better than the air bladders, but perhaps they aren’t.

The 1090s worked for me. They are still wearing fine with nearly 400 miles on them. Maybe this shoe just isn’t for you. Are you a runner that needs a stability shoe. The 1090s are in that category. If you are not in need of a stablility shoe, then that could also be part of your problem with these shoes Phil M. — "Learn from the mistakes of others.  You can’t live long enough to make them all yourself."